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03-04-2014 03:20 PM
linvillegorge Yeah, the whole "I'm gonna build some boards" business model pretty much sucks ass.

Do you have any experience building and/or designing boards? If you don't are you going to be employing and/or being advised by someone who does?

If the answer to both is no, then you're sunk. If the answer is yes, then maybe you have a chance to carve out a niche in the market.

I had to talk a buddy of mine down recently from this same thing. He wanted to build boards. I pointed out to him the fact that he had absolutely zero experience building or designing boards and quite simply didn't know what the fuck he was getting himself into. Then I showed him that the snowboarding market is actually contracting rather than expanding and that more than a couple of pretty major brands and build houses have gone under or aren't doing very well. He was convinced he could carve out a niche as being a local guy and building boards for locals. I said, "Oh, you mean that niche that Never Summer has sealed up tighter than a drum?" That pretty much shut him down.
03-04-2014 03:16 PM
andrewdod Come to me with a business model and a hard good that will change the industry and we will talk...
03-04-2014 03:03 PM
Kevin137
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Originally Posted by poutanen View Post
Yeah, I know I'd pay lots to get an ETM custom build, but they're hard to come by! Much better than the "here's some shit we decided to make to get rich without having to think about anything" business model.
They are that hard to come by, he has made over a dozen and sold none...!!!

That is just mean... But good business sense and he is not even doing that as a business...

Just goes to show that there is a market for new businesses just not the jumped up trashy wannabe's that do nothing...

On a slightly different note, i do understand the pre funding shit, some things just need it, i know you can do that without, but then you are giving away shit loads of your company at the same time, i have used kickstarter to buy a few things and have never been disappointed... Some though i do stay well clear off... You can normally tell if they are gonna complete and deliver just from there attitude at the start...
03-04-2014 01:14 PM
poutanen
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Originally Posted by The Deacon View Post
I think more of these "start-ups" would do well to follow ETM's business model. "F you, I'm gonna build a bunch of rad boards I want to ride, maybe I'll make you some if I get time".
Yeah, I know I'd pay lots to get an ETM custom build, but they're hard to come by! Much better than the "here's some shit we decided to make to get rich without having to think about anything" business model.
03-04-2014 01:12 PM
Deacon I think more of these "start-ups" would do well to follow ETM's business model. "F you, I'm gonna build a bunch of rad boards I want to ride, maybe I'll make you some if I get time".
03-04-2014 01:04 PM
poutanen
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Don't worry man, I believe in you. Who wouldn't want to buy a baby blue shirt to support a company that offers or promises nothing? I could wear the shirt and tell everyone I sell propane and propane acessories.


Probably my favorite TV character. After Rusty Shackleford of course...
03-04-2014 01:00 PM
poutanen
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Originally Posted by racer357 View Post
What does baby blue T-shirt with a black flame have to do with snowboarding?
This always kills me... What does some logo have to do with the "boardsports lifestyle"?!? And why is it a lifestyle?

I try to snowboard more than 30 days a year, patrol, and try to get as many people into snowboarding as I can. But I certainly don't look like this:



I LOVE snowboarding, but it's not my lifestyle, or my identity.

And last rant of the day. WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THESE FUND ME BULLSHIT WEBSITES?!? Whatever happened to people taking a chance and making a product, then trying to sell it (vs. asking people to pay them in advance and THEN they'll make the product if/when they sell enough).

It's entrepreneurship for pussies!
03-04-2014 12:47 PM
tdn Don't worry man, I believe in you. Who wouldn't want to buy a baby blue shirt to support a company that offers or promises nothing? I could wear the shirt and tell everyone I sell propane and propane acessories.
03-04-2014 08:19 AM
trapper Looks like yet another company created by snowfairies, for snowfairies.
03-04-2014 07:53 AM
racer357 LOL!!! The teespring account says 0 sold out of goal of 10.

If your goal is to only sell 10 shirts and say the profit margin on the shirt is 3.00$ this looks more like you are trying to have a cheeseburger and milkshake, not start a new company.

What does baby blue T-shirt with a black flame have to do with snowboarding?

looks like a propane company to me?
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