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03-14-2014 06:50 PM
Dago91
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Originally Posted by jdang307 View Post
I wear 7.5 and haven't found any Vans that small.

Have tried K2 Maysis (similar to Darkos). Heel lift was eliminated, but they were too narrow for my left foot (which is wider). But they don't come in half sizes so it's 7 or 8. I was thinking of giving them another try this year, especially with their new inner boa condo system, which looks like it would be less painful with the wires more shielded.
Fuck dude.. you have a small foot.
03-14-2014 04:10 PM
jdang307 I wear 7.5 and haven't found any Vans that small.

Have tried K2 Maysis (similar to Darkos). Heel lift was eliminated, but they were too narrow for my left foot (which is wider). But they don't come in half sizes so it's 7 or 8. I was thinking of giving them another try this year, especially with their new inner boa condo system, which looks like it would be less painful with the wires more shielded.
03-14-2014 03:59 PM
Booo!
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Originally Posted by jdang307 View Post
Heel lift sucks. I have wide but very low volume feet. No boot fits me, period and I've tried them all, over the past 3-4 years. The best I've gotten is just serviceable. Feet don't slide around but I do get play up and down (due to my low volume and skinny heels).

I have to tighten all my boots as tight as possible, which of course leads to numbness and pressure points occasionally. It's an ongoing battle.
Just out of curiosity, have you tried something like Vans Infuse, or K2 Darkos? It seems like you could have those boots 2 sizes too big and still not get any heel lift.


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03-14-2014 03:50 PM
jdang307 Heel lift sucks. I have wide but very low volume feet. No boot fits me, period and I've tried them all, over the past 3-4 years. The best I've gotten is just serviceable. Feet don't slide around but I do get play up and down (due to my low volume and skinny heels).

I have to tighten all my boots as tight as possible, which of course leads to numbness and pressure points occasionally. It's an ongoing battle.
03-14-2014 03:33 PM
chomps1211
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Originally Posted by CassMT View Post
you want your every subtle movement and pressure to be translated directly to the board, proper boot fit is just frikkn critical, i don't know how else to put it

as an analogy...ever drive an old truck where there is like 3" of play when you turn the wheel before any turning actually occurs? it's like that.

Funnest damned truck I ever drove!! In the service, my buddy's 50 something, three on the tree, Ford pickup. Fuckin' thing had at least 3" play in the steering!! The Bracket for the generator broke, had it tied back with Rope to keep the belt tight and juice to the lights,.. Starter dropped out of it one day on the road,.. Spent the next six months parking it on slopes to help us give it push starts!!! We had a BLAST crusing around SoCal and the coast mountains in that thing!! Such good memories and stories!!

Great fun for a couple young guys with a truck!!! That analogy is Not anywhere near so cool when considering your feet and snowboarding!!!

One day, the rear end came loose on the freeway. My buddy said the back of the truck slammed to the ground and he watched his wheels, axles still attached pass him on either side!!!

...do I need to follow thru with the analogy???


Get good fitting, comfortable boots!!! It makes ALL the difference in the world!!!
03-14-2014 03:25 PM
wrathfuldeity heel lift + 1/2" slopin around...I'm surprised you don't have black toe...bloody toes and nails falling off. Yur boots are too big and packed out and no way to fix that. Buy a 1/2 size smaller and get some good insoles...and j bars or butterfly wraps when they pack out. I have maybe 1/8-1/4" at the end of the toe box when my heel is locked in and if I can feel my toes touching the end of the box when carving heelside, I stop and snug everything up....have lost numerous toe nails. Performance = feet locked in... like carving heelside...should be able to flex your toes up and notice the heel edge lock in even more.
03-14-2014 02:47 PM
DiggerXJ I don't know how you've dealt with riding those boots for a season. My feet cringe at the thought of ill fitting boots.
03-14-2014 02:46 PM
linvillegorge
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Originally Posted by surfinsnow View Post
I don't know if they sell them after-market, but my Thirty-Two Focus boots came with a set of adhesive pads that you stick to the inner boot to tighten up the fit...they work great. I mean, really big difference.
J-bars aren't gonna work when the boots flat out don't fit. What he's describing are boots that are simply too big.
03-14-2014 02:39 PM
surfinsnow I don't know if they sell them after-market, but my Thirty-Two Focus boots came with a set of adhesive pads that you stick to the inner boot to tighten up the fit...they work great. I mean, really big difference. As others have said, heel lift not only changes your ability to make quick turns, it also can really, really hurt the front of your foot as you're constantly trying to compensate. Your heel/calf should be doing the work. If you're having to constantly put pressure on the balls of your feet to compensate for heel lift, I guarantee you'll be a candidate for surgery! Been there, done that. Ripped the shit out of my metatarsal tendon. When I went to the doc I just said "snowboarding" and he knew exactly what was going on.

On this same subject, going slow is a BIG problem! My skiing friends don't get it..."Let's do a green, it will be mellow." Fuck that...greens are THE WORST. Trying to hold an edge or maintain any kind of speed on a flat green is the worst thing for your feet. You're putting lots and lots of pressure on the front of your feet just to maintain...it not only hurts, it rips the tendons in your feet. Trust me...after thousands of dollars of surgery and an entire season out, you don't want to go through it.

Invest in good boots, have them fitted!
03-14-2014 02:37 PM
Varza
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Originally Posted by F1EA View Post
Boots MUST fit.

If they are so bad... worst case, rent some. With renting, at least you can choose which fit best, and who knows you may find a decent fitting boot (or at least better than yours). Worth a try?

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A quick "assessment": if after 4hrs+ or riding the first thing you want to take off are your boots.... something is wrong.

Good luck!
First point - very yes! I was also going to suggest you try to rent a pair of boots that fits better and see the difference for yourself.

End point - what should be the first thing you'd want to take off? For me, it's the helmet and goggles
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