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03-23-2014 09:34 PM
Originally Posted by stillz View Post
chomps, how narrow are we talking? Is it like a single track mountain bike trail? I'm picturing something around a board length wide, maybe a little less....

Actually, i believe most of those runs going thru the trees are Boyne's MTB trails in the summer.
03-23-2014 01:28 PM
SnowDogWax ^^^^
++++ your post is Gold for any who are starting out doing any glades the rapid-fire on straigtaways and shmear every tern or side walls is soooo spot on Stillz great info
03-23-2014 12:17 PM
stillz chomps, how narrow are we talking? Is it like a single track mountain bike trail? I'm picturing something around a board length wide, maybe a little less. If it's much narrower than that, I'm not sure what to tell you, other than be the first one through there.

If at all possible, I like to throw extra (rapid-fire) turns in wherever I can, especially the straightaways. Keep the board quickly crossing under you back and forth across the trench. Try to ride up the side walls and shmear off some speed near the apex of each turn. Actually, smear every turn as much as you can. You'll still end up going fast, but the more turns you can make, the more control you have.

This is a really challenging riding task, and that's all I have. I hope it helps.
03-23-2014 10:51 AM
t21 Mogul riding definitely would help along with dynamic turns. speed checking thru that glade is not much of an option but you can still stop at the top of a bump with putting a lot of pressure on your front foot i.e braking(not sure if that is the right term) but you can see those snowboarders able to stop and go. Besides it is better to familiarize that terrain slowly until you can figure out the spacing and the safe speed you can go thru them.
03-23-2014 08:16 AM
Tatanka Head
Originally Posted by Unowned View Post
speed checking and glades? What an odd practice, certainly not something that goes through my head since there's never any knuckle or landing I have to worry about.
Well, yeah, speed checking might not have been the right term. I meant reducing speed or maintaining a manageable speed for the rider. I meant that for the OP because side slipping isn't enjoyable and there is no reason to be in the glades if you are going slow and falling over.
03-23-2014 06:18 AM
chomps1211 Interesting read. We do not have any really decent "glade" runs where I ride. We have trees, and people go into them, but they aren't thinned or maintained as far as I can see. As a result there are very few options for picking your own line thru them.

The few times I've dared venture in, I've had to follow in the (...usually) hard packed and icy furrows of the previous riders. Picture a narrow, 12 to 20-24 inch deep, luge like trench snaking thru the trees.

What has happened to me in this situation is, I follow along riding in the ruts for a while and of course I'm forced to be making my turns where ALL the other guys have turned. I even do alright for the first dozen turns or so. But then I start to pick up speed, or something happens that throws me off balance or I'm just not quite quick enough to make the next turn and since I can't just recover, adjust my line and go round the next tree instead of this one,... I get Launched out of the side of the trench I'm riding in.

Fortunately, so far I haven't been launched straight into a tree or off into a valley, cliff, etc. on the side of the run! I Just wound up stuck, ass or face first in knee/thigh deep fresh, sweating my ass off trying to get up and get going again.

I would really love to have a chance to try a nicely thinned, gladded run in some deep fresh where I could pick my own line thru it and not be forced to try to follow in the furrows of All the previous riders!
03-22-2014 11:11 PM
stillz First, you should have short-radius dynamic skidded turns on groomers pretty dialed. It is THE prerequisite skill for enjoying bumps and glades.

As others have said, moguls are a great training ground for trees. Learn to use them to help you make turns. Get confident in moguls and trees will feel more natural. They can still be scary, so resist the urge to get in the back seat, or you'll be flailing. Lastly, take it as slow as you need to. Learning to read terrain is a skill and, like any other skill, will come with practice. Good luck and congratulations on getting off-piste.

As always, please consider a lesson with a good instructor if you can afford it. More advanced lessons like this are usually really productive and fun for both the student and the instructor.
03-22-2014 09:32 PM
SnowDogWax being able to ride switch will help, and as others said moguls.
03-22-2014 06:20 PM
globoat when I was at sunday river there were little kids going through crazy glades all over the place. mini shredders for sure
03-20-2014 05:15 PM
Originally Posted by baldylox View Post
What makes glades on the east coast difficult is they they are far more moguled than in the west. Get your hop turns and mogul technique down and your tree riding will improve.

Mogul riding will definitely help. I think what a lot of "groomer" riders don't realize/have problems with is how accustomed you become to having time and space to plan your turns, ie shopping for turns. Riding moguls will help you learn to turn when you want versus when the terrain makes it easier.

Another learning technique is to ride steep groomers while counting 1,2,3. Turn on every 3 no matter what is going on under your feet: no shopping for turns.
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