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04-07-2014 07:18 PM
karkis for bombin steeps
-practice bombing not so steeps. go so fast on blue runs that you get really scared, that air resistance is slowing you down rather than your edges, and when terror turns to exhilaration, then head to the steeps.
-practice slow controlled turns on the steeps. yah its fun to rip tear shred a steep slope but often conditions are tough and you always have to be able to exercise precise control.
-turn on the soft snow! if you're sideslipping the chunder its gonna be rough, point thru the chop and dump speed where its soft.
-feel the line before you ride it, if you can't see visualize feel how its going to come together, it likely won't.
04-07-2014 02:11 PM
twowheeled
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Originally Posted by Slush Puppie View Post
Be careful with the fore movement, you don't really need to actively use much fore, concentrate on the aft movement and you'll automatically get enough fore as the reciprocal.

You want to have your peak aft pressure as you are finishing your turn, then reset to more centred just before initiating the new turn. In practice in pow, you're actually stacked over your rear foot (as rather than fully centred on groomers) and you are building aft pressure by pumping the back foot out and back in as you make turns, keeping stacked and balanced. The build up of pressure almost jumps you into the next turn if you do it right (not to be confused with jump turns, which is a very different technique) As it gets steep 35deg + it's really all about pressure management.
thanks that's a really good description. I realized what i was doing wrong was pressuring the back foot too quickly not giving time to transfer the weight. I've gotten a lot better at letting the nose bite before pressuring back like you describe. That and fighting the urge to stop, keeping my board pointing down the hill has fixed the problem.
04-07-2014 02:03 PM
Slush Puppie Be careful with the fore movement, you don't really need to actively use much fore, concentrate on the aft movement and you'll automatically get enough fore as the reciprocal.

You want to have your peak aft pressure as you are finishing your turn, then reset to more centred just before initiating the new turn. In practice in pow, you're actually stacked over your rear foot (as rather than fully centred on groomers) and you are building aft pressure by pumping the back foot out and back in as you make turns, keeping stacked and balanced. The build up of pressure almost jumps you into the next turn if you do it right (not to be confused with jump turns, which is a very different technique) As it gets steep 35deg + it's really all about pressure management.
03-26-2014 11:10 PM
snowman55
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Originally Posted by twowheeled View Post
yea....the problem is that isn't steep. I can do those movements no sweat in that soft snow and black runs shown in the vid. But what happens if you are on hard snow or cornice and it's steep?
I agree it's not real steep in the video but the technique is still the same when riding on a real steep terrain.

I don't recommend doing the hop thing on a hard snow but the fore/aft movement helps greatly with edge/speed control on hard/icy snow on the steeps. Before I learn to do them properly and in timely manner, I would just skid down hard and my board would chatter like crazy. Now I don't have that problem on hard icy snow.
03-26-2014 06:42 PM
twowheeled
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Originally Posted by snowman55 View Post
Watch and study this video. He goes into what CassMT posted. Fore/Aft movements are very important when riding steeps. I watched this video like 50 times to learn the movements correctly and it really helped me with the steeps.

yea....the problem is that isn't steep. I can do those movements no sweat in that soft snow and black runs shown in the vid. But what happens if you are on hard snow or cornice and it's steep?
03-26-2014 02:39 AM
Steezus Christ come to red and ill show you how its done
03-26-2014 12:50 AM
snowman55 Watch and study this video. He goes into what CassMT posted. Fore/Aft movements are very important when riding steeps. I watched this video like 50 times to learn the movements correctly and it really helped me with the steeps.

03-25-2014 11:53 AM
SnowDogWax
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Originally Posted by poutanen View Post
Currie headwall is STEEP, it's the far left of that picture. I've posted better pics of it on the forum here before, I can dig one up if you want.

You probably got spooked, but one thing to work on is solid short radius carves coming right across the fall line. Work on them on steep blues (The Bear run at Fernie comes to mind), then work on them on the Knot Chutes, then you'll be ready for the headwall methinks. I have not been on the headwall, but been on similar terrain at other resorts, and you've got to attack it, but you've got to also be ready to attack it!
+++1
looked at some video they had exactly same intructions as poutanen..
03-25-2014 11:30 AM
poutanen Currie headwall is STEEP, it's the far left of that picture. I've posted better pics of it on the forum here before, I can dig one up if you want.

You probably got spooked, but one thing to work on is solid short radius carves coming right across the fall line. Work on them on steep blues (The Bear run at Fernie comes to mind), then work on them on the Knot Chutes, then you'll be ready for the headwall methinks. I have not been on the headwall, but been on similar terrain at other resorts, and you've got to attack it, but you've got to also be ready to attack it!
03-25-2014 10:58 AM
twowheeled
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Originally Posted by wrathfuldeity View Post
op those look to be...not really chutes...but big open (assuming lookers right of the knob)...but lookers far left on the wall through the rocks, is another matter. For me its about snow condition and knowing the runout. I.e., if the snow condition is good and I know there is nothing to run into or to huck my self off the planet (assuming the vis is good)...then go. The first few times through an area its good to be cautious.

btw...what is...why?...lifted back foot

"It was way too steep and once I lifted my back foot even a bit, I lost the edge and got a ton of speed."
We were riding left of the knob. I think it's a mental thing. I don't ride this way normally but once it gets steep and there are some cliffs I will go into sidestep and smear mode. On a normal run I'm very aware of my edges and always start turns with my front edge, torsioning the board to transfer from nose to tail. My board doesn't turn very quick either when on edge so that is always on the back of my mind.. am I going to overshoot.

The run itself wasn't extremely difficult. I think it was a combination of ski patrol telling us to go back down and scope a line and rethink the run, and my friends backing out that led me to second guess myself. I have ridden stuff this steep on open runs, but they are always short enough to straight line and bleed off speed when it levels out.

here's a video of one of the first runs I did. I was really nervous the whole heelsiding bit is me still running though my line in my head even though I'm already committed. I switched edges to line up and lost my toe, slid way down the run before catching it again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m0V...ature=youtu.be
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