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|03-31-2014 08:17 PM|
Originally Posted by BurtonAvenger View Post
|03-31-2014 06:47 PM|
|BurtonAvenger||I can safely tell you that those boards ride like other boards coming out of the same factory that don't push the green initiative because it's not anymore green. It's a marketing ploy. Snowboarding and the word "green" do not belong in the same sentence.|
|03-31-2014 04:46 PM|
there is never a point in any entrepreneurial endeavor when an influx of capital, especially as you are getting going.
sometimes Eco is being used a a marketing ploy, no doudt , but it does not follow that every eco startup is not first and foremost trying to create the product in a better cleaner way, many green business are legit too. i know because i have one, running since 2002.
kickstarter has done some awesome things for a lot of people and everyone benefits, i think it's pretty awesome. like anything it will get some abuse, but that is kinda what it's for, to separate the wheat, people are mostly smart enough to tell.
i'd like the option of and Eco board, esp if the price and performance are in there as well. when/if they get established they may be able to do some reall innovations into the possibilites of new materials (theres an explosoin of green industrial tech rt now) but for that you need supporters, an customers and cash
end of the day i would always rather come up with my own ideas, and create them with mine own energy. take some risks and possible scrape by for a bit. or ask for money for an idea that you know can work, than ever, ever again punch a clock for the man
so //, now i'll go check his stuff out
|03-31-2014 04:26 PM|
Originally Posted by chomps1211 View Post
|03-31-2014 04:01 PM|
|KansasNoob||I loled at "recycled steel" About 92% of steel is recycled|
|03-31-2014 03:26 PM|
Which is what i said in the 1st reply... Maybe not fully established, but established nonetheless...
And if trading for only 1 season has not given room for growth, then the product will struggle i think...
It may be more a case of running before he can walk as a company...
We all want success, and the way the world is these days we all want it NOW...!!! That is just not realistic...
If it is a good brand then it will succeed regardless, but we see so many great ideas that fail, i just don't understand what makes this any different...!
And i would rather pay for an ETM board anyway... Haha
|03-31-2014 03:18 PM|
Originally Posted by chomps1211 View Post
I just don't get how this seems like an established company but they need money to produce their 2015 products. The website is pretty fancy, have a range of products, they even have team riders.
I'm with Shred on this particular one - it seems like something's off with this company if they look pretty established but need to crowdfund to make this year's stuff.
|03-31-2014 02:47 PM|
Originally Posted by ShredLife View Post
...also, I've seen a number of interesting and good ideas floating around there. Having had some experience myself in having one of my ideas being (...for lack of a better term,) exploited by a manufacturer, without benefit of payment to me. ...and yes, that happened due to my own ignorance! AND, it has tirned out to be a multi million dollar product as well!) Fuck Me!
I also have recent experience in bringing a product to market and I know how hard it can be to get a foot in the door. I was fortunate in that I had some connections, friends & acquaintances in the professional Nature Photography arena to help me with introductions to their marketing connections.
Failing having those types of networking resources available, without something like Kickstarter, one is forced into seeking out more traditional methods of funding. AND,... As you yourself have pointed out on this forum more on than one occasion! Corporations are "greedy!"
If an idea doesn't look like a 100 million dollar idea? It's unlikely to get any funding. Crowd source funding at least allows for an idea to get a running start at becoming a viable, productive, profitable venture. One that just might create jobs and new industry in the future! No?
I just don't think its all bad, that's all I'm saying.
|03-31-2014 02:09 PM|
i fucking hate pretty much all crowdfunding bullshit at this point unless its begging for money for a kidney or cancer drugs or something.
there's a reason that homeless motherfuckers panhandling on the side of the highway don't have a company, and its the same reason your brokeass is crowdfunding. you don't get to have a company if you can't afford to pay for one.
|03-31-2014 01:46 PM|
I'm confused by those of you saying that it's a good deal.
How is $617 for a snowboard of unknown brand and build quality a good deal? The other stuff with it is a worthless other than as marketing for the brand.
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