Snowboarding Forum - Snowboard Enthusiast Forums - Reply to Topic
Thread: Avalanche in Sunshine Village?? Reply to Thread
Title:
Message:
Trackback:
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces) :
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 
   

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Snowboarding Forum - Snowboard Enthusiast Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



  Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

  Topic Review (Newest First)
04-02-2014 11:38 AM
Peyto
Quote:
Originally Posted by TorpedoVegas View Post
The main reason Sunshine requires you to wear gear is that it cuts down on the amount of people going into these areas. It keeps the terrain a little more exclusive, keeps the snow around longer and keeps a lot of people from getting in over their heads and having to have Snow Safety constantly rescue people from themselves.
This is the perception for a lot of people who ride the Dive. There is certainly a lot of truth to it as it does help keep out people who have no business being in there, but it allows others to shrug off the very real avy concerns that exist in there. The snow safety team spends a good couple of hours in those spots every morning, which tells you plenty about the nature of the terrain. As someone earlier posted, the risk level is not the same as backcountry, but you can be sure that it is high enough that patrol can't ensure safety to the same degree they can on the rest of the mountain (including south side chutes which often has some control work done in the morning), hence the gear requirement. It certainly covers SSV's ass, but it also corresponds with more risk.

But it's the false sense of safety that I object to the most. I'm not saying SSV encourages people to think that because it's avalanche controlled it's safe, but if you ride enough chairs at SSV you'll know that there are plenty of people who strap on the pack to enter the Dive/WW with no real training on how to use it. SSV management has to better balance their promotional efforts (area so bad ass and extreme that you need avy gear) with their safety efforts (the reality that it's complex terrain that can slide). One thing I hope comes out of it more clarity to users in this respect.
04-02-2014 10:27 AM
poutanen
Quote:
Originally Posted by Banjo View Post
They do bootpack DD. That's why it takes till January or February to open. I only ride with a pack to go in these areas, and I totally agree with pouts that it's nice to get rid of it.
I've considered switching to Louise, but I don't think my crew is down for the extra 30 mins, plus being able to ride till may 20 is a bonus.
How the hell do they boot pack that?!? Is it just the entrance?

By the time you sit on the gondola to get to the base, it's probably only 15 mins longer to go to Louise...
04-02-2014 09:40 AM
Banjo They do bootpack DD. That's why it takes till January or February to open. I only ride with a pack to go in these areas, and I totally agree with pouts that it's nice to get rid of it.
I've considered switching to Louise, but I don't think my crew is down for the extra 30 mins, plus being able to ride till may 20 is a bonus.
04-02-2014 09:19 AM
poutanen
Quote:
Originally Posted by killclimbz View Post
Well if you are hitting sidecountry shots a pack is appropriate. If not then yeah gaper.

The amount of control can be a bit overwhelming. Silverton mountain literally boot packs their entire mountain after the first snows to crush down all the facets and get rid of that base weak layer. Aspen Highlands does the same with Highlands bowl. Does something similar happen with DD? That terrain looks awfully steep and probably not possible to put a human safely in some spots. At least not without a lot of effort.
Yep lots of gapers with packs here, it's like you're not cool unless you have a pack with a shovel, shows how hardcore you are! I have to patrol with a pack (with a first aid kit in it) and can't wait for the freedom of nothing on my back when I'm freeriding away from the patrol!

I don't think any boot packing goes on in the Canadian Rockies (and surrounding mountains). The only thing I've ever seen is bombing, and ski cutting.

There are many spots in chutes out here that I wouldn't dare try to hike up, only way I'll be in them is with a board strapped to my feet thank you very much!
04-02-2014 08:50 AM
mhaas
Quote:
Originally Posted by tonicusa View Post
Take all your stupid water bottles off your waist and go play a sport. Exercising doesn't make you an athlete.
well said.
04-02-2014 06:49 AM
killclimbz Well if you are hitting sidecountry shots a pack is appropriate. If not then yeah gaper.

The amount of control can be a bit overwhelming. Silverton mountain literally boot packs their entire mountain after the first snows to crush down all the facets and get rid of that base weak layer. Aspen Highlands does the same with Highlands bowl. Does something similar happen with DD? That terrain looks awfully steep and probably not possible to put a human safely in some spots. At least not without a lot of effort.

And shred you are right. It fucking sucks. Resorts are where it is at.

Anyone want to meet me at Bert Saturday?

Sent from Verticalsports.com Free App
04-01-2014 11:27 PM
ShredLife goddamnit backcountry sucks... trust me.. its more work than fun - you don't wanna do it - we're all gonna die!!!
04-01-2014 11:15 PM
tonicusa ^
+1 yup. It pains me to see people wearing backpacks in resorts. One time is acceptable but if you haven't figured out that you're not Special Forces or heli skiing by your third infraction then you need some friends.

The only thing worse is all these "new" telemarkers who think they are "special" hipsters. It reminds me of all these retards who are into triathlons now because it seems cool. Posers. Take all your stupid water bottles off your waist and go play a sport. Exercising doesn't make you an athlete.
04-01-2014 10:21 PM
jtg Eh, sidecountry/slackcountry is big business now. From board makers pushing splits to resorts pushing their extreme terrain. The way it's marketed even pressures the general public to go there at some point. Like it's a part of your natural progression at the resort. Not that long ago, it was almost seen as a different activity. Now you're led to believe that you're missing out on real skiing/riding at certain resorts if you aren't hitting that stuff.
04-01-2014 09:56 PM
TorpedoVegas The main reason Sunshine requires you to wear gear is that it cuts down on the amount of people going into these areas. It keeps the terrain a little more exclusive, keeps the snow around longer and keeps a lot of people from getting in over their heads and having to have Snow Safety constantly rescue people from themselves.

It's bullshit to say that because they make people wear gear they care less about actually doing the work to keep the area safe.

We wouldn't even hear about this avalanche if there wasn't any injuries, and the only reason there was injuries is because they got taken for a ride over a really big cliff band. Those guys chose to ride that run knowing what kind of exposure is below it. There was a avalanche a month ago at Castle in one of the far chutes (Haveys Dream) and I never heard anything in the media about it because there was no injuries.... Are the people who run Castle a bunch of bastards who don't care about people and deserve the bad karma? No, they are the one of the best operations around. People need to quit adding to the bullshit.
This thread has more than 10 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

 
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome