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04-08-2014 06:56 AM
kumimajava Right, so I set out thinking I'd probably end up with a Hovercraft and a Live or Raptor. What happened since then went a little bit like this:



Well, the Hovercraft is getting sent back due to the manufacturing defect, and what I have arrived at instead is a Unity Whale & a Venture Odin. Compared to the Prior MFR that I have ridden & am used to, the Odin is actually quite a bit more flexible, with similar sidecut, so with any luck it might just not savage me completely. I'll be curious to see how it carves with such a large amount of taper, but i'm sure i'll have fun finding out.

Thanks for everyone who's pitched in with advice - all I need now is next winter
04-05-2014 06:34 PM
neni +1 on the Custom X as a resort board

BTW: If you want to demo boards, a trip to Saas Fee could be an option. They have a big demo for several weeks in Oct/Nov (glacier resort) Information - Snowboardbox.ch // Box & Future Try Veranstaltungen in Sölden, Saas-Fee, Davos & Les Croisettes
04-05-2014 05:15 PM
F1EA
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Originally Posted by kumimajava View Post
All was going so well, I was very near getting the Raptor - then found out that there is a Venture Odin that I could possibly get my hands on. Curiosity has been aroused & the madness continues.

Geez, so much new tech around since I last was buying a freeride board... CRC or RCR ... or R-flat-R.. as opposed to just camber.
LOL it never ends!

Another option for you would be something like Burton Custom X and a dedicated pow stick.... you could prob find both used in top condish and may total the same (or less) as 1 expensive board.
04-05-2014 02:44 PM
kumimajava
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Originally Posted by BFBF View Post
The odin could be perfect for you.
This is all personal preference, but this is a generalization of the brand.
I have 2 ventures right now - a zelix and skylar(I sold the odin)
They're big, burly board that ride like Cadillacs smoothly crashing thru chop and are quite damp.
Bases are fast and edge hold is superb.
The flat base with raised tips felt dead to me at first but after a few runs it's really a smooth ride.
They're better in powder than straight cambered decks but aren't super floaty like full rocker boards.
Ventures angle is you get "the best of both worlds" with their camber profile.

The build on the boards is solid and you can equate that when comparing a venture to one of your other decks(I have a bunch).
They're not chinese factory junk.
Mine look new after 2 years.( They're hand built in CO and I believe they could survive a nuclear strike, the build quality is that good)
For the most part they're used, tested, and built for silverton which is gnarly, san juan mt backcountry/slackcountry/Helicopter access)
Make your judgements from that.

If you want something more all mountain = zelix
The storm is also an option and is softer than the odin.

I have never been on a prior or raptor but I'm sure someone will chime in.

Coming from hard boots and camber + aluminum bindings/DX boots, the odin could be exactly what you're looking for = responsive, haul ass carving /big mountain set up.

This time of year, you have ALOT of choices at 40% so I'd probably get 2 decks.
I'm sure others will chime in.
Good luck.
Thanks for the detailed feedback. The Zelix did look attractive, but unfortunately there isn't one in my size around - living in the UK, I'm rather restricted in my choices by what is available. Even if there are discounts at online retailers, most of the boards of interest cannot be shipped to Europe. I do like the sound of the Venture boards, but I'm not sure how badly the Odin would kick my ass. The only Zelix they've got in stock is either a 159w which would probably be too short (i'm over the recommended weight range already), or a 162 regular, which would be too narrow

There is also an option of the Yes PYL 161w, but it somehow just feels a bit short.

I know it's a bit rubbish trying to decide all this in the abstract, since I can't test any of these decks on snow, and in truth, probably any of them would be more than adequate. Then again, since I can't easily get to the slopes in the near future, pondering gear in anticipation of next winter is a rather pleasant waste of time
04-05-2014 01:51 PM
BFBF
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Originally Posted by kumimajava View Post
Thanks - sounds like I would need quite a bit of luck. The one I would be looking at was 165w, since I would need a 26 waist. I'm 6'1 and 200lb, so this size is what the Venture spec sheet says should fit. Based on your initial description, it sounded like I should take out additional life-insurance before heading to the slope

Regarding stiffness - I'm not sure whether my bearings are in line with the modern day average, since I've been off soft-boots for so long. The current 'freeride' board I have is Prior's 165 MFR, from way back in 2008 which is pure camber. Whether or not this would rate as 'stiff' by current standards, I have no idea. Riding primarily alpine decks in parallel, it always felt rather medium in flex.

In terms of other bits of the setup, the bindings would be Phiokka M1 (aluminium), and probably a Driver X or a Malamute boot.
The odin could be perfect for you.
This is all personal preference, but this is a generalization of the brand.
I have 2 ventures right now - a zelix and skylar(I sold the odin)
They're big, burly board that ride like Cadillacs smoothly crashing thru chop and are quite damp.
Bases are fast and edge hold is superb.
The flat base with raised tips felt dead to me at first but after a few runs it's really a smooth ride.
They're better in powder than straight cambered decks but aren't super floaty like full rocker boards.
Ventures angle is you get "the best of both worlds" with their camber profile.

The build on the boards is solid and you can equate that when comparing a venture to one of your other decks(I have a bunch).
They're not chinese factory junk.
Mine look new after 2 years.( They're hand built in CO and I believe they could survive a nuclear strike, the build quality is that good)
For the most part they're used, tested, and built for silverton which is gnarly, san juan mt backcountry/slackcountry/Helicopter access)
Make your judgements from that.

If you want something more all mountain = zelix
The storm is also an option and is softer than the odin.

I have never been on a prior or raptor but I'm sure someone will chime in.

Coming from hard boots and camber + aluminum bindings/DX boots, the odin could be exactly what you're looking for = responsive, haul ass carving /big mountain set up.

This time of year, you have ALOT of choices at 40% so I'd probably get 2 decks.
I'm sure others will chime in.
Good luck.
04-05-2014 01:16 PM
kumimajava
Quote:
Originally Posted by BFBF View Post
Well you can carve a trench but it's better
At big carves due to whatever the sidecut
Is
It's smooth, damp and comes on multiple
Waist widths
Flat with rockered tips , it's also setback and tapered so you can turn it
It's just stiff
Ventures are solid big mountain boards
IMO the this is a step up in big mountain
Equipment over anything that ns currently offers (old
Ns boards were much much stiffer than current ns
Boards which are pretty much mainstream especially on colorado
At this point )
Good luck
Thanks - sounds like I would need quite a bit of luck. The one I would be looking at was 165w, since I would need a 26 waist. I'm 6'1 and 200lb, so this size is what the Venture spec sheet says should fit. Based on your initial description, it sounded like I should take out additional life-insurance before heading to the slope

Regarding stiffness - I'm not sure whether my bearings are in line with the modern day average, since I've been off soft-boots for so long. The current 'freeride' board I have is Prior's 165 MFR, from way back in 2008 which is pure camber. Whether or not this would rate as 'stiff' by current standards, I have no idea. Riding primarily alpine decks in parallel, it always felt rather medium in flex.

In terms of other bits of the setup, the bindings would be Phiokka M1 (aluminium), and probably a Driver X or a Malamute boot.
04-05-2014 01:01 PM
BFBF
Quote:
Originally Posted by kumimajava View Post
Thanks for this input - I tried to look for more info on this board, but very little was forthcoming on the non-splitboard version. Based on what you've just said, it doesn't look like it would fit that well into what I would need it for (i.e. softboot carving). Going straight is kinda the exact opposite...

So - warning duly noted, and most likely heeded too
Well you can carve a trench but it's better
At big carves due to whatever the sidecut
Is
It's smooth, damp and comes on multiple
Waist widths
Flat with rockered tips , it's also setback and tapered so you can turn it
It's just stiff
Ventures are solid big mountain boards
IMO the this is a step up in big mountain
Equipment over anything that ns currently offers (old
Ns boards were much much stiffer than current ns
Boards which are pretty much mainstream especially on colorado
At this point )
Good luck
04-05-2014 12:51 PM
kumimajava
Quote:
Originally Posted by BFBF View Post
I had an Odin 164

A stiff, savage board. Meant to go straight
And fast on big,open terrain.
Beware
Thanks for this input - I tried to look for more info on this board, but very little was forthcoming on the non-splitboard version. Based on what you've just said, it doesn't look like it would fit that well into what I would need it for (i.e. softboot carving). Going straight is kinda the exact opposite...

So - warning duly noted, and most likely heeded too
04-05-2014 12:29 PM
BFBF
Quote:
Originally Posted by kumimajava View Post
All was going so well, I was very near getting the Raptor - then found out that there is a Venture Odin that I could possibly get my hands on. Curiosity has been aroused & the madness continues.

Geez, so much new tech around since I last was buying a freeride board... CRC or RCR ... or R-flat-R.. as opposed to just camber.
I had an Odin 164

A stiff, savage board. Meant to go straight
And fast on big,open terrain.
Beware
04-05-2014 11:37 AM
kumimajava All was going so well, I was very near getting the Raptor - then found out that there is a Venture Odin that I could possibly get my hands on. Curiosity has been aroused & the madness continues.

Geez, so much new tech around since I last was buying a freeride board... CRC or RCR ... or R-flat-R.. as opposed to just camber.
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