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06-09-2014 02:40 PM
madmax
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Originally Posted by ETM View Post
Generally people start by making some snowboards and see if they work.
ETM - what do you even know about building boards???????




yesssssss everyone that's sarcasm. Basically dude was like 'WE DON'T NEED YOUR HELP' but then 'can i get your help please'
06-09-2014 01:53 PM
lab49232
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Originally Posted by BurtonAvenger View Post
Once again MONEY is what you need. Regardless of what anyone thinks, to do a new brand and make it a success you're looking at minimum a 5 year timeline with a substantial capitol investment.

As the saying goes "How do you make 1 million dollars in snowboarding? Spend 5 million."
This is so true. Everybody saying you just need to create a new product that works well, innovate, etc, while that all helps it by no means creates a profitable company. Frankly you can have the best product on the market, advertise the crap out of it and still have zero sales. In reality there is no demand left in the snowboard market as there are far more boards than riders. You have to remember that while some people here have 10 boards, that represents less than 1% of the market. Most are people who buy 1 board every 10 years. The only brands who are gonna make it through are people who at the end of the day have money to keep a brand going while running in the red. The other companies will all die out. The companies with money survive long enough to wait out the market while slowly creating a recognizable name.

Plenty of companies out there where a lot of people think they do nothing inventive, or quality that still are doing quite well financially, a company isn't one part, it's money, it's product, it's marketing, and frankly it's a lot of luck as well. If the formula was so simple to create a brand there would be a lot more people doing it successfully.
06-09-2014 01:01 PM
td.1000 if you make one of these and the price is ok I will probably buy it. it's from one of my favourite games growing up.

06-09-2014 10:53 AM
BurtonAvenger I've always supported brands that support snowboarding in a positive way with the exception of energy drinks because that shit will fucking kill you.

Money is what it takes plain and simple, but aside from that it's how you spend and utilize that money.

Classic example give me 1 million dollars and say start a snowboard brand from the ground up vs giving it to someone else who snowboards but isn't a snowboarder that has some degree and a business plan and the end result will be completely different.
06-09-2014 09:54 AM
snowklinger
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Originally Posted by BurtonAvenger View Post
Anyone else notice OP has stopped responding after 1 post. Guess their brand is a brand of the people. /sarcasm.
as usual.....so ez to troll.....

Not sure if it has anything to do with it but your talk of money makes sense with your support of k2 and salomon. Companies like redbull are good for us too. We can't just be a sport of "grass roots" stoners making usa snowboards in our garages.

06-09-2014 07:35 AM
BurtonAvenger Once again MONEY is what you need. Regardless of what anyone thinks, to do a new brand and make it a success you're looking at minimum a 5 year timeline with a substantial capitol investment.

As the saying goes "How do you make 1 million dollars in snowboarding? Spend 5 million."

Anyone else notice OP has stopped responding after 1 post. Guess their brand is a brand of the people. /sarcasm.
06-09-2014 02:56 AM
kosmoz Boobs, cameltoes and asses usually works for design
06-09-2014 02:18 AM
ridinbend
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Originally Posted by linvillegorge View Post
What? The point of a business is to make money. If you have sufficient demand and you aren't making money, then you're simply running your business poorly. Demand is but a small portion of the overall equation. It's vital to a successful business, but demand and demand alone doesn't guarantee success. You have to uphold your end of the business in terms of actually running the business and efficiently meeting that demand.
Of course, but profit comes from selling your product. Nobody buys something they don't want. It's all supply and demand. Making money is the goal. But any rich fucker can start a business, but it takes a lot more to make a successful business than start up funds. Who wants to buy this guys snowboards? Nobody. I know it's much more complex than this but my general point is from that of a consumer in the sense that people want what other people have. If this start up started putting full page ads in mags with SW riding the pipe on them, kids will buy it. Unfortunately. Obviously the population of this forum is going to be a bit more informed due to the exposure to upcoming products versus the kid reading TW and watching Xgames.

My point with Gigi is people(consumers) want his boards because he is involved, just like many people(consumers) want Burton because of SW.
06-09-2014 12:43 AM
Manicmouse Someone copy in a first year economics supply and demand graph
06-09-2014 12:35 AM
linvillegorge
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Originally Posted by ridinbend View Post
Demand. Create a demand for a product and you are successful. Money is a given. You can have all the money in the world and still fail.
What? The point of a business is to make money. If you have sufficient demand and you aren't making money, then you're simply running your business poorly. Demand is but a small portion of the overall equation. It's vital to a successful business, but demand and demand alone doesn't guarantee success. You have to uphold your end of the business in terms of actually running the business and efficiently meeting that demand.
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