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09-02-2014 05:16 PM
24WERD if its a small mountain the skate banana is fine.

Any big mountain with terrains you are going to feel the bumps off the groomers.

with 10.5 , union in Large are easier to center.

I have that size boot and bindings.
09-02-2014 03:12 PM
linvillegorge Not sure you're gonna see a huge increase in responsiveness going from those Romes to either Cartels or Forces. They're all medium flex bindings. The biggest issue I see is that you're riding a park rat board except that you don't ride park.
09-02-2014 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ekb18c View Post
If you are going to use the cartels, it's better off that you stick to a Medium binding. The large will be too big for the 32 lashed 10.5 boot and you boot will moving around a lot.

I'm a 9.5 32 focus and I tried to center it on a Large cartel and it was not very good. The M cartels were a much better fit and still had more room for a bigger boot.
If you go with the Cartels, I agree 100% w/ this.

Remember that w/ Burton bindings you are stuck with what the holes in the disks give you as far as moving the binding "port to starboard"...
I have a pair of the Lashed in Sz. 13 and w/ Cartels in Large, and using the screw holes closest to the back of the disks (towards the highbacks), it puts the the boots centered about perfect (equal heel/toe overhang). I know Burton says their bindings in Large are for 10+, and I had expected to at least have to use the middle of three "overhang-adjustment hole" choices in the discs for a Sz.13; but if I do w/ these boots, it's all heel-overhang and the toes of the boots barely poke over the edges... IMHO, Large Burton bindings, w/ smaller-footprint boots, are for maybe more like Size 12+.

Pics are worth 1000... (Rear binding at -6, and the Capstrap toe-strap makes it look like there's more toe overhang than there actually is.)
06-15-2014 08:58 PM
stevros48 My understanding was that the contacts are aimed at freestyle...as i still want the skate banana as an all mountain board i thought the forces would be just right....some people have advised me that the cartels although gud quality they are stiffer than the forces...this is only what ive read and heard......just like some people say the forces are light and some say they are heavy. I picked up the forces and cartels in the store and cartels looked like better build quality and were lighter.
06-15-2014 06:42 PM
stevros48 Heya 24werd....yeah the reason i want forces is because im not doing much park....im more of a cruiser who toys with natural features...never been near the rails or the half pipe yet...want to become an efficient carver and switch rider....still get butterflies in my stomach up top of black diamonds and narrow trails....love riding wide open bowls where theres no fences or sheer cliff drops to kill me lol...
06-15-2014 03:22 PM
24WERD if you are using it for your fun board then look at the union contact bindings.
06-15-2014 10:00 AM
ekb18c If you are going to use the cartels, it's better off that you stick to a Medium binding. The large will be too big for the 32 lashed 10.5 boot and you boot will moving around a lot.

I'm a 9.5 32 focus and I tried to center it on a Large cartel and it was not very good. The M cartels were a much better fit and still had more room for a bigger boot.
06-15-2014 08:19 AM
stevros48 Thx sg... The times are a pain to set up so they staying on my powder
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06-15-2014 07:02 AM
stevros48 Yeah the guy from dogfunk said the 10.5s will fit in and the mediums will be a bit softer and forgiving.guess I could go try boots on unions in local store but they sooooo expensive here in nz. I've bought my boots last year and a new lib tech banana there this year so I could just be straight up with them and say just wana try em on
06-15-2014 06:56 AM
stevros48 24werd. Thanks for reply... I am 75 kg exactly without any gear on. 175cm tall
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