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07-04-2014 08:33 PM
neni
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Originally Posted by timmytard View Post
So now after the fact, who do you think made the better choice?
So far both of us we didn't have a good season, warm n dry at home as well as in AK, no really deep pow all season, the 164 did great in what we had, and he absolutely loves to ride it on groomers. I'm pretty sure he'll cope deep pow with it as well, as he's more the fall line type of rider and has less issues with getting stuck. They match very well

I chose the slighty shorter (156), more agile Mothership for trips in challenging conditions and never know what's behind the next corner terrain which I think was a good decision as the Flag would have been more trying there but hope that next season will be a good one again, eager to ride the Flag again in my wide open terrain at home.
07-02-2014 02:39 AM
timmytard
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He chose the shorter thinking the deep days are rare so he can easily sacrifice a tad of float for these rare events.
I chose the longer one thinking that the deep days are rare so I absolutely don't want to sacrifice a tad of float for these rare events
So now after the fact, who do you think made the better choice?

I'm with you on this one.

Powder days are the absolute best days, I choose longer & even more pow specific.

I have no problem sacrificing shit days

So my pow days are mind blowing


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07-01-2014 04:30 PM
neni
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Originally Posted by Ricardo64 View Post
Thanks Neni,
that last post helped, I will go for the 161
Absolutely. Just measured the distance between the most inner inserts of the 164: 46cm


f00bar: thanks I thought it's a weakness of mine to be unable to post short answers and always write books to express my thoughts
07-01-2014 03:02 PM
f00bar
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Originally Posted by neni View Post
How easy you'll submarine depends besides of board surface, riders weight and distribution also on how light/heavy, dry/wet the snow is, on slope steepness and how fast you are. You'll hardly feel a difference between 6, 12 or 20" if it's cold heavy pow but if it's ligh, you'll feel the difference between 6 and 12 and 20". You easily cut 15" deep in a turn. (Can't speak of deeper, didnít have the luck yet). Additionally to that: the deeper it gets, the less you want to get stuck thus more surface to avoid that risk and stay easier on top even on flatter passages.
My Mothership is only 2cm shorter than the FS and a tad more narrow but I feel a big difference in how good they float. It's either lean back on flats or just surf the flats.
I guess that makes sense with the tendency for deeper snow to be lighter so you want a bit more area.

In an internet world of 5 word responses that more often than not leave you with just more questions your responses are almost always nice to read and greatly appreciated.

Sorry for your loss! (World Cup)
07-01-2014 02:38 PM
neni
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I'm gonna show my ignorance here, but I don't understand how a larger board is beneficial in the deeper pow. As a probably totally wrong analogy, when you are swimming it's not easier or harder to swim once you get to a certain depth.

It would seem to me that once you get to a relatively small amount of deep (6-12"?) it just becomes a matter of preference on how you like to float.
How easy you'll submarine depends besides of board surface, riders weight and distribution also on how light/heavy, dry/wet the snow is, on slope steepness and how fast you are. You'll hardly feel a difference between 6, 12 or 20" if it's cold heavy pow but if it's ligh, you'll feel the difference between 6 and 12 and 20". You easily cut 15" deep in a turn. (Can't speak of deeper, didn’t have the luck yet). Additionally to that: the deeper it gets, the less you want to get stuck thus more surface to avoid that risk and stay easier on top even on flatter passages.
My Mothership is only 2cm shorter than the FS and a tad more narrow but I feel a big difference in how good they float. It's either lean back on flats or just surf the flats.
07-01-2014 10:29 AM
f00bar
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He chose the shorter thinking the deep days are rare so he can easily sacrifice a tad of float for these rare events.
I chose the longer one thinking that the deep days are rare so I absolutely don't want to sacrifice a tad of float for these rare events
I'm gonna show my ignorance here, but I don't understand how a larger board is beneficial in the deeper pow. As a probably totally wrong analogy, when you are swimming it's not easier or harder to swim once you get to a certain depth.

It would seem to me that once you get to a relatively small amount of deep (6-12"?) it just becomes a matter of preference on how you like to float.
07-01-2014 09:58 AM
Ricardo64 Thanks Neni,
that last post helped, I will go for the 161
07-01-2014 09:20 AM
neni
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44 cm
That's pretty narrow... how did you measure? From center to center (both lateraly and vertically)?
07-01-2014 09:15 AM
neni
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Must say manoeuvrability is high on my list without sacrificing float.
They are natural opponents... flip a coin. If you know all aspects, and both would fit with some pros and cons on both options, at some point you just need to go with your guts.

BTW: I've been insecure if going with the 158 or 156, hubby was thinking to and fro if getting a 164 or 168 for two aspects: agility vs. float in deep. (And yes, it's kind of splitting hairs as the FS isnít a very agile board anyway and it floats great anyway)

He chose the shorter thinking the deep days are rare so he can easily sacrifice a tad of float for these rare events.
I chose the longer one thinking that the deep days are rare so I absolutely don't want to sacrifice a tad of float for these rare events
07-01-2014 09:12 AM
Ricardo64 Neni, I usually ride 156 gnu carbon credit and 159 dirty pillow and sometimes if I'm lucky I get on my sons 151 lib tech Trs.

We all ride Goofy in our household ( don't know why ) stance + 15, 44 cm, +15
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