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11-29-2010 12:00 PM
Grizz
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Originally Posted by HoboMaster View Post
The biggest animosity I see nowadays between skiers/boarders is that most of the time, if skiers can help it they don't want to ride the chairlift with you.
It's all perspective. I find the "skipping out on sharing a chair at the last second" maneuver happens more when I'm on skis and they're boarding than the other way around. It's funny how people will naturally segregate themselves by what they have on their feet. Like seeks like I guess.
11-29-2010 11:48 AM
Grizz
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Originally Posted by Zee View Post
From what I've noticed, the real core guys respect each other no matter the equipment.
Totally agree. They also tend to talk about themselves the least.
11-29-2010 11:44 AM
KIRKRIDER
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Originally Posted by Deviant View Post
I haven't read all the pages of this thread so if this was mentioned previously it's my bad..

The majority of the skier vs snowboarder bs comes from 2 types of people.

1) Older folk who have a problem with new things.
2) Kids that are too young and egotistical because one group isn't doing what they are doing.

The ONLY trouble I've really had out there is from older people (55+) that have some sort of preconceived notion that snowboarders are all punk kids, or that we "ruin the snow". The later being something I hear about once a year. We have 2 resorts close to each other here, about 17 years ago you could only snowboard at one resort but you still had to pay full price, now it's both resorts, but there's still the grumpy grandpas out there that don't want us on their snow. They didn't want it at "their" resorts before they even saw someone ride, but I think now it's starting to go away since they know we are here to stay. The whole CHANGE IS BAD mindset is slowly dying out thankfully too.

HoboMaster: I know what you mean about the chairlift thing. I don't understand what the big deal is though, I mean we're just sitting there, how many times have they sat close to a snowboarder in a restaurant or bar not knowing? I ride with a ton of skiers and am happy to share the chair with them anytime. The killing with kindness is a great approach, but I prefer a nice long laugh and thanking them as I'm getting off the lift (laughing) that they made my day Makes for some really red faces.


EDIT: I should have clarified that I didn't mean that all older people have a problem with snowboarders, I've ridden the lift with some really friendly people including an older guy who was super excited to ask all about snowboarding, but around here if we do get flak for it, that's 95% of the people that say something
Absolutely agree....I have had many good nice rides with skiers, but sometimes the sight of a board makes them regress to childhood. This guy in particular probably thought that since he saw beginners fall off the lift, he would make me fall too just for fun. He really looked disappointed when he turnedback and I was standing beside him! It was so obvious it made me laugh. Most of the times I have no problems at all with anybody...we are all there for the pow after all.
11-29-2010 11:04 AM
Snowfox
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Originally Posted by JeffreyCH View Post
I think they are just jealous of our boots....I'd be a bit testy too if I had to wear those awful looking torture devices on my feet. I see the look on their faces in the lodge at the end of the day, total relieve to get those things off
This folks, is the true reason.
11-29-2010 10:14 AM
JeffreyCH I think they are just jealous of our boots....I'd be a bit testy too if I had to wear those awful looking torture devices on my feet. I see the look on their faces in the lodge at the end of the day, total relieve to get those things off
11-29-2010 09:02 AM
JoeR
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Originally Posted by Deviant View Post
HoboMaster: I know what you mean about the chairlift thing. I don't understand what the big deal is though, I mean we're just sitting there, how many times have they sat close to a snowboarder in a restaurant or bar not knowing?
I think skiers are typically worried about two things: boards hanging sideways on the lift and bumping their skis (of course this does happen sometimes, but it shouldn't be a big deal), and inexperienced riders wiping out when getting off the lift and taking hapless skiers with them. This sometimes happens too, but on the other hand, very young children tend to fall a lot in this situation as well, and very young children are more likely to be skiers than snowboarders.
11-28-2010 11:12 PM
Deviant I haven't read all the pages of this thread so if this was mentioned previously it's my bad..

The majority of the skier vs snowboarder bs comes from 2 types of people.

1) Older folk who have a problem with new things.
2) Kids that are too young and egotistical because one group isn't doing what they are doing.

The ONLY trouble I've really had out there is from older people (55+) that have some sort of preconceived notion that snowboarders are all punk kids, or that we "ruin the snow". The later being something I hear about once a year. We have 2 resorts close to each other here, about 17 years ago you could only snowboard at one resort but you still had to pay full price, now it's both resorts, but there's still the grumpy grandpas out there that don't want us on their snow. They didn't want it at "their" resorts before they even saw someone ride, but I think now it's starting to go away since they know we are here to stay. The whole CHANGE IS BAD mindset is slowly dying out thankfully too.

HoboMaster: I know what you mean about the chairlift thing. I don't understand what the big deal is though, I mean we're just sitting there, how many times have they sat close to a snowboarder in a restaurant or bar not knowing? I ride with a ton of skiers and am happy to share the chair with them anytime. The killing with kindness is a great approach, but I prefer a nice long laugh and thanking them as I'm getting off the lift (laughing) that they made my day Makes for some really red faces.


EDIT: I should have clarified that I didn't mean that all older people have a problem with snowboarders, I've ridden the lift with some really friendly people including an older guy who was super excited to ask all about snowboarding, but around here if we do get flak for it, that's 95% of the people that say something
11-28-2010 10:17 PM
roremc I have been riding for 10 years and everyone I have ever had a run in with on a hill has been a snowboarder. Both can be annoying but snowboarders are the worst IMO.
11-28-2010 09:35 PM
JoeR
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Originally Posted by Zee View Post
From what I've noticed, the real core guys respect each other no matter the equipment. It's the gaper that thinks they're core that hate on the someone because they ride different equipment.
I don't really agree with that -- or at least I don't think it's true consistently enough to be accepted as a generalization. Whatever exactly "core" means in this context, I believe that often it's the newer skiers and riders who are more accepting of diversity on the slopes, simply because they took up their respective sports in a world in which both disciplines were already well-established. Often it's the grizzled veterans who are more reluctant to accept change. (Who are the people keeping Deer Valley and Alta snowboard-free after all these years?) Sometimes I read the alpine skiing forum on Usenet; like most Usenet forums, it's apparently dying (the snowboard forum died a few years ago), but it's still illuminating. Most of the remaining participants appear to be devoted skiers with many decades of experience. Almost to a man (there's perhaps one exception), they seem to despise snowboarders as both mountain companions/competitors and even as people.
11-28-2010 11:57 AM
Donutz
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Originally Posted by Zee View Post
From what I've noticed, the real core guys respect each other no matter the equipment. It's the gaper that thinks they're core that hate on the someone because they ride different equipment. These are the same guys that ride carving skis and laugh at guys on fat skis... yes there is animosity between skiers on fatties and skiers on carving skis (apparently you can tell how core someone is by how fat their skis are).
Some people need to make themselves feel bigger by making others look smaller. The details don't matter as long as they can find something to point to and laugh at.
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