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|01-10-2010 06:35 PM|
What kind of conditions are you riding in? Cause you should probably check out what kind of lenses you want too.
Low light and fog: yellow, gold and amber lenses
Low light grey days: Rose lenses
Bright light: dark tints (especially green)
Night skiing: clear
|01-10-2010 05:41 PM|
I'll tell you what Leo... we disagree sometimes, but I like how you pull from personal experience and give honest reasons to support your opinions.
My roommate just got a pair of Smith I/O goggles. I'll see if he will let me borrow them on my trip (probably not! bastard!) and tell you how I think they compare?
|01-10-2010 05:34 PM|
Originally Posted by braden717 View Post
|01-10-2010 12:00 PM|
|braden717||I'll second the a-frames. I absolutely love mine. I tried on a ton of goggles and they fit me the best. My lense never fogs up, even when I take my goggles off my head.|
|01-10-2010 10:44 AM|
Originally Posted by Tarzanman View Post
But, I still stand firmly on getting spherical goggles for many other reasons. You will get a better designed goggle. One other thing to note. Flat lenses are just fine, but there is a reason why you don't see goggles with a large coverage with flat lenses. Like an Electric EG 1 with flat lens. When you have that much lens coverage, spherical makes a factual difference. Top down vision would be distorted with a flat lens. With a flat lens, light travels through the top and bottom of the lens differently than when it travels through the center of it. This causes distortions which is why flat lens goggles have less coverage.
Edit: forgot to mention the top down thing with flat lenses is due to cylindrical lenses being tapered from only the center to the sides. Spherical lenses are tapered from the center to the top, bottom, sides, diagonal, etc...
Spherical goggles = more field of vision because of a larger lens coverage area, better designed frames, more technology on the actual lens i.e. Smith Vaporator (Regulator and Airflow do not have this)
All of those mentioned are huge advantages to me. I love goggles that minimize obstruction of vision and I have gone through many flat lens goggles and they all intruded in on my vision due to the smaller coverage area of the lens. That's just me though. Maybe seeing the plastic of the frame in all of your peripherals doesn't bother you.
|01-10-2010 09:54 AM|
Originally Posted by Leo View Post
|01-10-2010 08:53 AM|
Originally Posted by Tarzanman View Post
I also disagree with your comment about shops carrying either Smith or Scott, but not both. I can only speak for Michigan, but I see both Smith and Scott regularly. The company I work for owns 7 brick and mortar shops and we carry all major brands. Scott beats Smith on for their entry level flat goggles, but Smith outsells Scott's spherical thanks to the I/O and I/Os.
Another thing to consider with buying spherical is the anti-fog. Since spherical goggles are more expensive, they utilize better anti-fog technology. Take Smith for example. They burn the anti-fog coating into their spherical lenses. Their flat lenses just have basic coating. Along the same logic, the more expensive spherical series goggles will have a much better design. This means better ventilation to further fight condensation and fog.
Goggles are definitely not created equal. Spherical is superior to flat for many other reasons than just the curvature.
|01-10-2010 08:06 AM|
A lot of people are going to tell you a lot of things about goggles. In the end, you should care about two things
1.Do the goggles fit correctly
2. Can I see out of them properly
#1 - Fit. Fit doesn't just mean 'do they fit around my head'. You want a goggle that is
-Big enough for your face
-Big enough or small enough for your nose bridge (too small and you'll have problems breathing when the goggles are positioned on your face properly)
-Roughly matching the curvature of your face (othewise you will have gaps where the goggle gasketing doesn't seal against your head well enough
-Will fit over (or under, depending on how you wear stuff) your helmet, mask, or balaclava
#2 - Optics This just boils down to 'can I see properly'. I wouldn't pay any attention to 'spherical' vs 'cylindrical'. The refractive index of the plastic lenses is not enough to make a noticeable difference. Some people may disagree, but physics disagrees with them. After all, you are snowboarding, not shooting clay ducks at 100 yards away.
-Do you have a good, wild field of view or do the frames cut off important angles of vision
-Do they fog up quickly and take foever to de-fog (some goggles have venting adjustments to help with this)
-Are the lenses the appropriate shade I am looking for (I suggest 2 pairs of goggles instead of fooling around with switching lenses)
Most shops carry EITHER Smith or Scott. I've never been to a shop that I saw carrying both of those two brands. Of the shops that do carry Smith, most of them say that Smith tends to sell a little better. Most people I go to the mountain with have Smith, Oakley or Anon goggles. Remember, brand is less important than fit & function. Make sure to try on as many pairs as you can and try to determine the differences you can feel.... (which admittedly, is hard to do until you've worn goggles for a bit).
|01-10-2010 03:32 AM|
|Mr.V||Get some electric EG.5S or EG.2S.|
|01-09-2010 11:24 PM|
There are tons of Goggle comps out there,for sure shop around and see which offers what you are looking for. Style, fit and conditions you are riding in? Some comp give you 2 lenses when you buy them, for sunny and cloudy days. Spherical goggles are real popular right now and also pricey, so if you do go that route make sure the lens is perfect for your enviroment..
Also new lenses can cost as much as a new pair of goggles so do your homework, also if you keep the foam lining part of the goggles against your face and not on your beenie that helps with the fogging..
best of luck.
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