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11-06-2010 07:36 PM
pontiuspylate For editing programs, if I am looking to just put something together real quick and not looking to do anything fancy then I will use Windows Movie Maker. But if I want to get fancy and throw in some special effects and put more of a professional look on it then I use Adobe Primere.
11-06-2010 07:24 PM
NYCboarder using the go pro as a follow cam to fim your buddies is pretty good. they have telescopic poles to attacvh it to. You have to be a lil close but not dangerously close at all. the video is excellent. 60fps is amazing for slo mos...i got it for 219 buks which is a steal when msrp = 300.. some reviews show the quality of the go pro next to top of the line hd cams. and at a quater of the price, it is better than some. I agree it is not a cam to use for everything bc no viewfinder..
11-06-2010 06:06 PM
rephreshed sure thing!! now i just need some sleep so i can concentrate on what the f i'm doing
11-06-2010 05:43 PM
david_z ahhhh come to think of it I think you're right. My camcorder does MP4 and that format don't work in MovieMaker (at least it doesn't work in mine). I musta had the formats mixed up.

So if the Kodak does shoot in MOV it sounds like you'll be alright with that.
11-06-2010 05:06 PM
rephreshed more awesome advice, thanks!! my windows movie maker actually is able to use .mov files.
11-06-2010 02:57 PM
david_z making doubles won't help unless you're literally backing up the project file twice every time.

It's hard to explain without knowing how the application works, but basically you import your raw video files and then you create a movie by cutting, splicing, splitting, editing, etc. MovieMaker holds something in memory I think, because when you start trimming/splicing them, your original, raw, unedited files are never altered. What I suspect MM does is: keeps a database of the alterations/etc. that you've done to the files, but doesn't actually do anything to the file itself.

Be careful if you move the files or re-name the folder they're in, MovieMaker won't be able to "find" them. You'll be able to point it to the right place and reset it and everything will work, but it's best to establish a "Projects" folder and use that to keep all project-related files like still pictures, videos, songs, etc. I organize mine by date, but YMMV.

So you only ever risk losing your "project", not the underlying video clips.

Another word of caution: I think the kodak shoots .MOV which will need to be converted and you lose some quality. There are a ton of freeware conversion packages that work decently enough, but you might want to get a program that can natively handle .MOV files. Also, having to convert these files (which are enormous in size) is a major pain in the ass every time.
11-06-2010 02:40 PM
rephreshed thanks for the tips! maybe i'll make doubles of everything just to make sure i don't lose anything!
11-06-2010 02:37 PM
david_z @reprhreshed

If you run Windows you probably have Microsoft Movie Maker. Or it's available for free download from Microsoft if your PC didn't come with it installed. Like most MS applications, it's very user friendly to the point of being idiot-proof, but like most MS products it's prone to weird and unexplained errors
  • like if you apply slow-motion to one clip, the next clip inherits that with no way to turn it off.
  • sometimes the project your working on will "freeze" and of course the only way out is Ctrl+Alt+Del to kill the program. Make sure your auto-save is set to save your file like every 10 minutes.
  • sometimes a clip will freeze like you had inserted a still image. sound still works, but the clip is wrecked usually can't be fixed.
  • sometimes when overlaying audio it loops a segment of the track rather than the whole track. I think this might be related to some DRM protection though and not necessarily Microsoft Movie Maker

In fairness most of these things happen very infrequently, but of course they always seem to happen at the most inopportune time or when you have put a lot of work in to a project.

The pros: it's free, and easy to use.
The cons: prone to funky errors that you can't fix, doesn't have a ton of features

Overall it's a good enough product to get started and get a feel for putting songs & splicing video clips together with some basic transitions, effects, etc.

I recently got Corel Visual Studio Pro but have really only used it a few times. A guy I know uses Final Cut Express which can make some nice clips. Both of these are better applications, there's a bit of a learning curve (they don't work exactly like MS MovieMaker but this can be a good thing) and they have more effects and features available.

I think Final Cut might be a Mac application. Also for macs there's iMovie, but I don't have a mac so I can't really speak to either of these.
11-06-2010 01:21 AM
earl_je Most of the reviews I read recommend the playsport. I'm thinking of getting this also
11-06-2010 12:33 AM
Originally Posted by david_z View Post
the Zi8 can be had on Amazon these days for about $115 I think which is an awesome price for a budget HD cam.

I think the kodaks do .MOV format which yeah that can be a pain in the a$$ for anyone working with windows, in particular for people working with MovieMaker which doesn't support .MOV or .MP4 format videos. Do yourself a favor and get a better video editing package from the store or from bit torrent.
I just got a refurbished Zi8 off of amazong for $83

What kind of video editing software would you recommend that's still user friendly?
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