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03-24-2011 12:27 PM
bamfb2
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Originally Posted by slyder View Post
This confused me:
If you are goofy and your board is going counter-clockwise how are you hitting your rigth side 1st???
Your board is pointing left'ish and your body is pointing right'ish to allow you to hit your right cheek first???

Aha. Nice catch. I'm landing more on my left cheek, or even dead center. Here's a better description.

My board is pointing leftish/back. So let's say the jump is a clock, with the downhill being 12 o'clock. my board is pointing at about 8 o'clock (so I guess more than 45 degrees).

My body is pretty much square with the board, but it rotates towards the downhill a bit. So I'm almost going head first, upside down into the landing. And my butt sticks out and hits on the left side (or center of the lower back) first.
03-24-2011 07:50 AM
eddiethebus as mentioned already its hard without a vid, but just go through a check list and correct anything that wrong.

Pick a drop in spot and drop into the kicker with no speed checks

Make sure your riding into the kicker with your body parrallel to the board (your standing sideways, not skiing )

Make sure your on a flat base and weight centred over the board, low centre of gravity...

Jobs a goodun
03-23-2011 11:55 PM
slyder
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Originally Posted by bamfb2 View Post
So I hit the lip, pop, fly upward/forward, but rotate maybe 45 degrees counter clockwise (I'm goofy). Knees are bent and the side of my ass (right cheek) hits first.
This confused me:
If you are goofy and your board is going counter-clockwise how are you hitting your rigth side 1st???
Your board is pointing left'ish and your body is pointing right'ish to allow you to hit your right cheek first???
03-23-2011 11:15 AM
bamfb2
Cheers.

Thanks for all your input guys.
03-17-2011 09:36 PM
ohsleeper i very much doubt the problem is occurring on take off, i think its much more likely that hes turning himself in the air. i could be wrong but theres no way to tell without video. riding on your heeledge to straight air is not a good way to practice good form. flat based is also dumb in my opinion. keep you shoulders straight and weight on the balls of your feet.

and fear isnt why i suggested stepping down jump size. it gives you less time to screw up in the air. get comfortable. and move up.
03-17-2011 08:54 PM
Donutz Hm. People really aren't listening are they? Not a confidence problem, he's been doing this for a while. Not a "rotating to face the jump", he's rotating backside, and a toe-edge launch will just make it worse. Sorry guys, I'm not trying to be a PITA, but that's what the electrons say.

Bamfb2, your problem is likely either going off the jump slightly toeside, or cranking your upper body as you launch, or hitting the lip with a bit of a lean. Seems to me that A or B would give you a clean rotation, not the board-up-the-hill-fell-on-my-ass landing. Without any video evidence, I'd bet you've started leaning slightly forward and heelside as you launch. Dunno why -- maybe the jump is no longer level and you're compensating, maybe because of your approach you're initiating a slight heelside turn as you hit the lip. But it would cause the landing you describe. Fair warning, I'm basing this on physics, not experience. I'm no old pro by any means (old, yes. pro, no)
03-17-2011 08:49 PM
cadencesdad
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Originally Posted by bamfb2 View Post
Thanks for the replies guys.

I'm a bit confused between the last two messages. The two statements in bold contradict each other, no?

cadencesdad, you are correct about the goofy/counterclockwise thing. I'm kind of flying slightly 'backwards'.
Ya, I would say you may already be a bit to much toe-edge.I would start off by making sure you are coming off flat based. If you are confident you are coming off flat based already, perhaps a slight heelside may help counter your slight spin. Like mentioned earlier...Throw in a grab to help keep things straight. Also, some grabs will help initiate a spin. But you said it happens during straight airs too so.... Indy grab would probably work best in diagnosing the problem.
03-17-2011 08:41 PM
bamfb2
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Originally Posted by ohsleeper View Post
i think most of your problem is mental. however some tips would be try toe edge pressure off the lip, not enough to turn the board, just to be on the balls of your feet and in an athletic stance. next grabs really help with staying balanced in the air. also gives your brain something to think about besides an arse first landing. and last i would drop down to a smaller jump to get the confidence up. a straight air is a straight air is a straight air. good form on a small jump will translate to bigger features.

good luck
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Originally Posted by cadencesdad View Post
I would agree but he said he rotates couterclockwise (goofy). If he were to do the natural reaction, he would be facing downhill with his board in
front of him which would be a clockwise rotation.

From the sounds of it, you are leaving the lip maybe with a bit of a toeside edge causing a slight spin???

Thanks for the replies guys.

I'm a bit confused between the last two messages. The two statements in bold contradict each other, no?

cadencesdad, you are correct about the goofy/counterclockwise thing. I'm kind of flying slightly 'backwards'.
03-17-2011 08:26 PM
ohsleeper i think most of your problem is mental. however some tips would be try toe edge pressure off the lip, not enough to turn the board, just to be on the balls of your feet and in an athletic stance. next grabs really help with staying balanced in the air. also gives your brain something to think about besides an arse first landing. and last i would drop down to a smaller jump to get the confidence up. a straight air is a straight air is a straight air. good form on a small jump will translate to bigger features.

good luck
03-17-2011 08:20 PM
cadencesdad
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Originally Posted by pencap75 View Post
Common beginner problem. The natural tendency when you go air born is to face your body fowards, which will cause you to turn in the air and land on your ass. Keep your shoulder parallel to the board. A simple grab will force you keep your shoulders properly aligned.
I would agree but he said he rotates couterclockwise (goofy). If he were to do the natural reaction, he would be facing downhill with his board in
front of him which would be a clockwise rotation.

From the sounds of it, you are leaving the lip maybe with a bit of a toeside edge causing a slight spin???
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