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01-08-2013 11:48 AM
Gdog42
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Originally Posted by East§ide View Post
this sometimes works... my toe caps dont stay on my boot regardless of where theyre screwed into the straps
That's interesting.

Do you have a picture? I've never heard of them not staying on the boots before. What boots do you have?

I have a pair of Ride Anthem Boas (shit boots so I'm getting a different pair soon), and at first the cap did slip off and come up over the boot a couple of times. I just tightened the straps down more, which solved the problem.
But my boots are still awkward to fit with their flat and wide toe boxes, so I've just been running them over the top instead of capping them, although I could cap them fine.
01-08-2013 10:46 AM
East§ide
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Originally Posted by Gdog42 View Post
I have the DLX and the Force bindings, and that ratchet issue is just with the Force bindings.
On the DLX, the ratchets are much smoother and release a lot more easily. I like the more curved toe strap on the Forces, so I use those with the DLX ratchet on my back binding. On this season's Force bindings, they have longer and slightly thinner ladders for the toe straps, which makes the toe ratchets easier to release.

As for the toe capping problem in the review, the toe straps have to be in the correct 2-position slots depending on what boot size and model you have.
If you have a smaller boot size, you might need to put the into the back slots before mounting them to your board.
I wear size 13 boots, and found that mine cap best with the inside slot at the back and the outside slot at the front. I'm getting new boots soon though so I might need to change that.
In this review it sounded like the toe straps needed to be in different slots.

With the binding off the board, put your boot in and strap the ankle strap. Then play around with the slots for the toe strap underneath until you find which setting allows you to cap it the best. Make sure it's the right length, too. It should be so that the opening in the strap is centered over the boot. This will also make it a little easier to release the ratchet.

It sounded like the toe strap was the only real problem in this review. I'm pretty sure it would work fine if adjusted right.

It's also easier to release it you pull the ratchet up with your index finger while pushing down on the back with your thumb. I've tried just using my index and it's nearly impossible to release, but using the thumb simultaneously gives an easy pop and it's out.
this sometimes works... my toe caps dont stay on my boot regardless of where theyre screwed into the straps
01-07-2013 03:57 PM
Gdog42 I have the DLX and the Force bindings, and that ratchet issue is just with the Force bindings.
On the DLX, the ratchets are much smoother and release a lot more easily. I like the more curved toe strap on the Forces, so I use those with the DLX ratchet on my back binding. On this season's Force bindings, they have longer and slightly thinner ladders for the toe straps, which makes the toe ratchets easier to release.

As for the toe capping problem in the review, the toe straps have to be in the correct 2-position slots depending on what boot size and model you have.
If you have a smaller boot size, you might need to put the into the back slots before mounting them to your board.
I wear size 13 boots, and found that mine cap best with the inside slot at the back and the outside slot at the front. I'm getting new boots soon though so I might need to change that.
In this review it sounded like the toe straps needed to be in different slots.

With the binding off the board, put your boot in and strap the ankle strap. Then play around with the slots for the toe strap underneath until you find which setting allows you to cap it the best. Make sure it's the right length, too. It should be so that the opening in the strap is centered over the boot. This will also make it a little easier to release the ratchet.

It sounded like the toe strap was the only real problem in this review. I'm pretty sure it would work fine if adjusted right.

It's also easier to release it you pull the ratchet up with your index finger while pushing down on the back with your thumb. I've tried just using my index and it's nearly impossible to release, but using the thumb simultaneously gives an easy pop and it's out.
01-05-2013 02:28 PM
vukovi21 i don't get it...like its the biggest fault in the world....

just put some down force on the buckle when you try to unlock it...it will be easier!!!!

and yes i have '12 forces...don't complain at all,would live to try new atlas
01-04-2013 11:38 PM
MikeCL having got my first Union pair bindings today (DLX) I see what you guys mean by the toe straps with the amount of force needed to remove them you would think something would break.
01-04-2013 10:52 PM
Snowboardit After riding casual for 7 years, I decided to go for park my 8th. After doing months of research I found myself a Skate Banana 152 which is the best board I've ever ridden on in my life. The guy at the shop suggested the Force's and after doing some insane research on bindings as well, I had my mind set on the Rome 390's. But the price tag and the color that matched my board convinced me to just go with it. (not to mention it was very convenient.) That choice was probably the worst choice I have made in snowboarding. I've had the same thoughts and problems you have had and I'm frustrated out of my mind. The first time I hit the slopes I noticed that the toe strap seemed like it was made out of very cheap material and had no padding whatsoever. Not to mention that when I wanted to unstrap, I had to unstrap my top strap first and then proceed to pull my boot out of the binding. Worst bindings I've ever ridden. Definitely going for the 390's after I take these back. Glad I'm not the only one!
12-12-2011 07:09 PM
Leo
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Originally Posted by New_World_Order View Post
I dont play internet fad games and terms like "fanboy" so gay.....
Im a fan yes...Is that a insult? No.

Union Force are awesome to (ME).........Better?
Terms like fanboy are "gay", yet your entrance to this forum with nothing but insults is___?
12-12-2011 07:06 PM
Beschatten
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Originally Posted by rdot84 View Post
I dont know what year union bindings you were riding but the newer models are super light. And there is absolutely no dead zone. Portions of the baseplate are actually hollowed out to allow more feel under your feet. Where are you getting your info from? Im no fanboy but from my experience they are the best feeling/responsive binding. Ill deal with a ratchet issue that goes away with use. Rather have a sticky ratchet then one that loosens all the time like my cartels did.

On a side note: What boots are people using with these bindings. Union doesnt have the best adjustability so boot fit could be a huge issue. Im using 2010 Burton Hail's with footprint reduction size 9
FOR CLARIFICATION:

Im on an older model. 2009/2010. My info isn't wrong, but it makes me fucking happy as balls to see them fixing alot of issues that I had on my model.

And just an update: My right ratchet is broken and my baseplate (WTF?) cracked. Of course I ride like a god damn boss so they had it coming to them anyways.

If you guys are talking about the 2012 model, disregard my bitching.
12-08-2011 10:06 PM
Leo Alright, so let's say this is squashed.

For the record, I was only calling NWO a fanboy and telling him to go back to EL.

I don't use the term fanboy loosely. A fanboy is someone who ignores a pretty damn common criticism because they love the brand that much. A fanboy is someone who goes into negative reviews and bashes the person as being inexperienced. A fanboy is someone who goes into other binding threads proclaiming that their favorite brand is superior in every way.

You are a fan. NWO is a fanboy.

I was perfectly fine with this thread never being revived again. I've admitted numerous times that I was just bitter towards all the Union fans that trashed Flow threads. And this bitterness was made worse because in my eyes, Unions didn't live up to the hype. I will still try unions in a heartbeat especially if they perfect the toe strap. Really don't have anything against the company.
12-08-2011 08:32 PM
rdot84
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Originally Posted by Leo View Post
You must be mistaking me with someone else. The only person I criticized here is NWO. Furthermore, all I ever said was that the toe cap design is not up to par with expectations from a binding specific company. Neither are the ratchets. I also mirrored what you just said about dampening (lack of canting included).

Every other part of the binding I defended. DuPont Zytel plastic is effin bomb proof and Union uses that. Even in my old comments, I said Union's ankle strap and ratchets are great. Which makes me criticize their toe cap and ratchet more.

I suggest you re-read my posts or try taking those Union goggles off first. Who else did I criticize here? Only NWO because he was being a complete condescending asshole.

And don't give me that "Internet tough guy" routine. You're the one that came at me guns blazing making ignorant assumptions about me personally. And trust me, I would have this same discourse with you in person.

As for union, I told the reps that day about the toe straps and ratchets. By the way, I rode the contact pros as well. Same feeling about the toe strap and ratchet. Cool base on those though.

Can we let this ridiculous thread die again? This shit was buried until someone fed it zombie juice.
Haha. (zombie juice). As usual things can be misinterpreted. I actually find your reviews to be informative and had mentioned that in an earlier post. Im not trying to attack you personally and never meant to offend. I was just responding to how you were the one calling people fanboys and telling them to go back to other sites and what not.

Anyway, thats the problem with forums. People hear what they want to read. (does that make sense Haha) Cant we all just get along.

And just so its clear. Union ratchets suck....there i said it

Back to your regularly scheduled program.......
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