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01-13-2012 02:20 PM
cocolulu
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Originally Posted by Nette View Post
I think you're right hihi! But why would it be that there aren't as many women who are interested in taking their snowboarding to that level and why we don't push ourselves to go further and further?
Simply because guys want to prove themselves? They want to impress people?
I really don't know, because I think there are lots of girls who want that too.
It's too easy to say that I think I am one of those girls, but I don't have the opportunity to prove that haha. But I think when I had lived in the mountains and could board everyday with the good guys, I would try so much more stricks. But like I said: that's easy to say because it's not what it is right now.
It's great that you aim high. Hopefully we see you taking women's snowboarding to a new level

As for others, I'm not sure I can answer that. I guess society kind of shapes our values in different ways than men. I don't know many women that are really really ambitious about sports to the degree that men are... like they sit around and fantasize about being star football players or snowboarders. So a lot of women set different priorities. Of course, there are some women who are ambitious with sports, but overall, you might have like 10,000 men competing for some event, constantly struggling to come up with new moves to make the qualifications, while you might have, 5,000 women (with admittedly less physical ability) competing in the women's category. When you have more people competing, you have a bigger chance that someone with good natural ability is applying their gifts to the art. You're probably going to get a significant difference in skill compared to a smaller pool of talent. I'm just making up numbers.
01-13-2012 01:40 PM
mastershake man those straights at Le Mans are deadly....
01-13-2012 12:43 PM
CheeseForSteeze Here's some closed wheel fun to at least make it interesting. Greatest Group C car, ever:



01-13-2012 11:19 AM
mastershake
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Originally Posted by IdahoFreshies View Post
Can we please get off the horse riding kick? It is totaly irrelevant and proves absolutly nothing.
i think this whole topic is irrelevant..who cares? just go out there and shred to the best of your abilities, you can't argue nature.
01-13-2012 11:06 AM
IdahoFreshies Can we please get off the horse riding kick? It is totaly irrelevant and proves absolutly nothing.
01-13-2012 10:59 AM
EatRideSleep
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Originally Posted by CheeseForSteeze View Post
I don't think breaking a sweat is a very good metric of athleticism. For example, golf requires extreme amounts of dexterity and power but low amounts of strength, athletic speed and moderate endurance. Playing golf at a high level could mean playing 32 or more holes in a day, no easy feat for your back muscles to endure.

Judging by the workout routines presented in that issue of Dressage Today, the workouts are lots of core strengthening for muscular endurance. He even states that he was broken for several days after a 400 meter race with his soccer playing friend. Obviously, being athletic will give you an advantage over another equestrian who isn't and certainly won't present a disadvantage. However, to what degree is athleticism important over skill?

To really see (a watered down version) of what a man competing directly against a woman would look like, go watch Cristiane Santos fights. She has (artificial) androgen levels of approach that of a man and she completely wrecked her opposition almost on physical talent alone, though it should be noted she is skilled in many disciplines of combat.

I'm sorry, but I do not buy that equestrianism requires athleticism on the same scope that major sports do and therefore I reject it being a good counter example of women competing directly with men in arenas (sports) require a great deal of athleticism.
True, breaking a sweat isn't a good metric. An out of shape person will break a sweat more readily than an in shape one. I was using it as (my) example to indicate the required effort from my personal experience in each activity.

I'm not a golfer. However, my understanding is that a strong core will give a golfer an edge as well? That is what a golfer explained to me when remarking on how well I did my first time out (srtrong core from riding horses, which is essential in riding horses, and why Peters' workouts involve a lot of core strengthening).

In riding, I feel athleticism combined with skill go hand in hand on the back of a horse. You can toss Michael Phelps on a horse, yet he won't do as well as a less athletic person who has riding skill. Especially at the higher levels, athleticism does matter as it influences stamina and the physical components that execute skills.

Not selling anything but again, my point was and is that equestrian sports are ones in which men and women compete against each other, and there is no division of the sport based on gender.

EDIT: I watch MMA but prefer watching men compete. I've never enjoyed seeing Cristiane Santos or other MMA chicks fight. Same goes for boxing.
01-13-2012 10:57 AM
CheeseForSteeze The Corkscrew is wicked ... kind of like the Chad's Gap of auto racing. I read an article about how they built that track. They basically let the bulldozer crew just go with the terrain and then drafted the track after they had it leveled. Pretty cool, natural flow with the hills of California.
01-13-2012 10:49 AM
mastershake
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Originally Posted by CheeseForSteeze View Post
I think he went to NASCAR because 1) he was getting too old to compete in Formula 1 (wtf is Schumacher doing??) 2) he had a good avenue in being part of the Chip Ganassi racing team. It's been fun watching him compete and have success during the Sprint/Nextel cup series.

I hope to one day go to the Monaco GP, but that's quite costly. I should have done it after graduating like my other friends did, lol.

I just hate Infineon because there were always races there on Gran Turismo 4 and it's just not very friendly for closed wheel sports cars, and especially not for P1 cars. Damn blind over the hill corners. <3 Laguna Seca, though.
Laguna Seca is an all time favorite, i hope to track it one day in real life. I am planning on going to Canadian Grand Prix this year as well as when F1 comes to NJ...fist pumping at the track? why not...
01-13-2012 10:43 AM
CheeseForSteeze
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Originally Posted by mastershake View Post
you're right. i got my facts wrong he did however participate in F1 for a couple of years, but the point still stands...

and yeah Infineon is retarded...i am going to Watkins Glen this season (May 4-6) can't fucking wait....we should have a thread on racing
I think he went to NASCAR because 1) he was getting too old to compete in Formula 1 (wtf is Schumacher doing??) 2) he had a good avenue in being part of the Chip Ganassi racing team. It's been fun watching him compete and have success during the Sprint/Nextel cup series.

I hope to one day go to the Monaco GP, but that's quite costly. I should have done it after graduating like my other friends did, lol.

I just hate Infineon because there were always races there on Gran Turismo 4 and it's just not very friendly for closed wheel sports cars, and especially not for P1 cars. Damn blind over the hill corners. <3 Laguna Seca, though.
01-13-2012 10:40 AM
CheeseForSteeze
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Originally Posted by EatRideSleep View Post
It requires athleticism to a great degree. Beer pong trick shots...lol

I've ridden horses since I was three. I've played golf and table tennis. In the latter two, I never broken a sweat or had an increase in heart rate. I've had some of the most intense physical workouts in the saddle, however. And keep in mind, I haven't competed at the Olympic level.

From http://www.jlbodyconditioning.com/pr...oday-March.pdf
I don't think breaking a sweat is a very good metric of athleticism. For example, golf requires extreme amounts of dexterity and power but low amounts of strength, athletic speed and moderate endurance. Playing golf at a high level could mean playing 32 or more holes in a day, no easy feat for your back muscles to endure.

Judging by the workout routines presented in that issue of Dressage Today, the workouts are lots of core strengthening for muscular endurance. He even states that he was broken for several days after a 400 meter race with his soccer playing friend. Obviously, being athletic will give you an advantage over another equestrian who isn't and certainly won't present a disadvantage. However, to what degree is athleticism important over skill?

To really see (a watered down version) of what a man competing directly against a woman would look like, go watch Cristiane Santos fights. She has (artificial) androgen levels of approach that of a man and she completely wrecked her opposition almost on physical talent alone, though it should be noted she is skilled in many disciplines of combat.

I'm sorry, but I do not buy that equestrianism requires athleticism on the same scope that major sports do and therefore I reject it being a good counter example of women competing directly with men in arenas (sports) require a great deal of athleticism.
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