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02-02-2012 12:43 PM
GorgeDad I'll throw in another vote in for the BOA. Most importantly, you need a boot that fits and is comfortable regardless of the closure type. I find the ease of the BOA is great, though i would recommend a dual BOA. I have experienced when riding hard that a single BOA can cause the bottom (on your foot) to tighten from the pressure you put on the upper boot from flexing. This can happen with a lace, too, but is alleviated with the dual BOA because you can adjust leg and foot zone separately.
02-02-2012 08:20 AM
eek5
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Originally Posted by metric View Post
Love my Thirty Two Focus Boas, which are a dual boa. I tried and returned the Ride Jackson which is a single boa. Too many pressure points
Same here. Went from DC dual boas to K2 "dual" boa (one for shell and one for the conda) and I hated the K2s. So many weird pressure points. Dual boa for the shell is just better, period.

It seems like most people who are satisfied with single boa haven't ridden a good dual boa boot.
02-02-2012 12:10 AM
metric Love my Thirty Two Focus Boas, which are a dual boa. I tried and returned the Ride Jackson which is a single boa. Too many pressure points
01-31-2012 10:48 PM
KG29 I love the boa system and the dual boa even better

It's a hate love thing some people love you just slip you foot in and twist the knob and your going on the chair left.

I view it as the rear entry bindings you hate them or think they are cool

Myself very dislike the tradinal lace system(hockey skate style) never could get my laces tight enough
01-31-2012 07:38 PM
snowklinger
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Originally Posted by killclimbz View Post
Huge improvements with BOA for backcountry riding. Being able to loosen your upper cuff with the dual zone system makes for much more comfortable skinning. If you need support for say steep side hilling, it's a few cranks away. You're not going to do this with laces or speed laces. Yes I've broken a few cables, it's been over 30 days each time. If you have the kit, it's just about as much of a hassle to replace as laces are, which break and stretch. Overall I have been quite happy with the dual BOA system. Having spares is a good idea. Especially for the upper cable. That seems to be the one I most often fray. Visually inspecting your cables before and after each use will cut down on the breakage factor. I've done a full day with a just frayed cable no problem. It's also worth tightening your boots back up after you take them off to make sure the cables don't get bent, snagged, and such. It has been nothing short of huge improvement for me.
good point about skinning, didn't think of that.
01-31-2012 02:43 PM
SnowRock My two cents. I love them, but also realize boot technology has probably improved in terms of comfort/heel lift versus my last pair with standard laces so I am coming at this from a point where any pair of new boots I would have probably appreciated. I got the K2 Thraxis through a friend at a discount which helps, so I have their triple BOA system and a heat molded boot.

What I like most is that you donít have to over-tighten which is something I did far too often with laces. I throw them on at the hill and tighten, but lean towards not tightening them down too much. Then after the walk to the lift I will adjust before strapping in. The ease in which I can tighten at any point of the day/anywhere has made my riding much more comfortable. With laces I would go overboard because I didnít want to have to stop to tighten more.
01-31-2012 01:30 PM
bobthegood I owned a pair of K2 single boa's, and am on my 2nd pair of TIDB’s. Shit just keeps getting better. But as others have said, if the boots don't fit right to begin with, boas's are not going to help.
01-31-2012 01:14 PM
easton714
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Originally Posted by snowklinger View Post
btw. he would not have been able to tie the cable together.

If you are the smart, plan-ahead type, you can just email BOA now, before your shit breaks, and carry it around in your gear. Even tell them your ratchet spool jammed/exploded so they send everything (if not specific, they will only send a cable). Don't pay for shit.

That's what I'd do if I ever have another pair of BOA's, which I won't, because I'm still confused about besides the addition of technology, r&d, material, and money, I don't understand what improvement they provide over laces. And don't say they are faster, because while they may be slightly quicker in the morning, you will see many people (myself included) who will fuck with them all day long just because they can. I don't even untie at lunch in the lodge because my boots are comfy and may as well been laced by magic lacing gremlins for all my feet know.

Tying traditional laces seems really easy to me, but maybe i'm like the fucking Michael Jordan of lace tying.

Honestly, the only reason I even got rid of my lace boots was because I didn't feel like I could get them tight enough. I like mine pretty snug - but that goes for pretty much all shoes for me but especially for anything athletic. I played college baseball and I wore shoes a half size too small and cranked them as tight as I could get them before double-knotting. Snowboard boots, because of all the padding and the general size, I just can't do that. BOA could.
01-31-2012 11:49 AM
stevetim
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Originally Posted by Riley212 View Post
i tried a Ride double boa and K2 triple boa system, i like how easy they where and they never loosened up other than breaking in.

The problem i had with both is that the way the boa laces were attatched to the boot cause the boot flex to pinch my ankles which hurt a lot. They were comfortable in store and walking arround my house. but once i started riding is when they started hurting.

This for me!

I had K2 single Boa Raiders. I loved them and they were easy as hell to adjust. But the wire threaded over the inside of my left ankle bone and as soon as I did a couple of runs, put way too much pressure on that point leading to so much pain I could barely walk after taking off the boots.

Just make sure when you buy the Boa system, they have adequate padding under the wire on the pressure points of your foot.
01-31-2012 11:44 AM
killclimbz Huge improvements with BOA for backcountry riding. Being able to loosen your upper cuff with the dual zone system makes for much more comfortable skinning. If you need support for say steep side hilling, it's a few cranks away. You're not going to do this with laces or speed laces. Yes I've broken a few cables, it's been over 30 days each time. If you have the kit, it's just about as much of a hassle to replace as laces are, which break and stretch. Overall I have been quite happy with the dual BOA system. Having spares is a good idea. Especially for the upper cable. That seems to be the one I most often fray. Visually inspecting your cables before and after each use will cut down on the breakage factor. I've done a full day with a just frayed cable no problem. It's also worth tightening your boots back up after you take them off to make sure the cables don't get bent, snagged, and such. It has been nothing short of huge improvement for me.
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