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01-31-2012 05:07 PM
killclimbz We almost always have a faceted or depth hoar layer at the ground level btw. Even last year, there was anywhere from a couple of inches to almost a foot of it. Usually it gets buried deep enough that it's fairly predictable. Even so, most people wait for the big lines until we start to get a freeze thaw cycle that helps solidify all of those other layers we got over a season.
01-31-2012 04:55 PM
killclimbz I just don't know about these guys. Reckless is the best description. They knew this terrain was suspect at best.

As far as stuff running to the ground. The Current Creek Bench and Cirque slides did not completely remove the snow. It got rid of a lot of the facets but not completely. Did it make a difference? Probably. Regardless, those are spots generally best avoided in good years.

For these guys, maybe they'll have some luck. If they are using ropes and secure points, I could see their efforts bearing some fruit. Somehow I doubt that is what is going to happen.

It's a fine line between a reasonable action and stupidity.
01-31-2012 04:54 PM
snowvols
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I havn't seen a decent slide yet this season that didn't go to the ground

Even the huge one that just went on berthoud went to the ground from what I could see

And it's MASSIVE! Biggest one I've ever seen with my eyes
From looking at the photos and the video it appeared that there was still a layer of snow that was left behind. I know that the larger rocks and stuff are exposed now due to the slide. I don't know the state of your snowpack since I don't live there so I might sound super ignorant. If it did in fact still leave a layer of facets though the new snow will bury it. Then you are with the same problem since you never trust a hoar no matter how deep she is.
01-31-2012 04:45 PM
cjcameron11 i gotta admit I'm very interested in how avalanches work and how unbelievably powerful they are/can be. I mean they still kinda scare the shit out of me, but in a good way, it has made me respect riding even in Australia where we rarely have avalanches due to the warmer temps and less snow accumulation.

BUT reading this forum and other sites has given me valuable insight into looking for things i would otherwise have no idea about, and makes me think twice about doing certain things i probably would had it not been for this free important info.

And as said even i know that vid was fucking stupid
01-31-2012 04:44 PM
Milo303 I hope Kill chimes in on the discussion of triggering on purpose
01-31-2012 04:39 PM
Milo303
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I'd agree with you if your snowpack wasn't shit like ours. When you have facets to the ground and the slide doesn't take the facets with it all it is doing is setting it up to go again.
I havn't seen a decent slide yet this season that didn't go to the ground

Even the huge one that just went on berthoud went to the ground from what I could see

And it's MASSIVE! Biggest one I've ever seen with my eyes
01-31-2012 04:38 PM
Milo303
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So are we saying it was kinda expected to slide in this vid? seems to me thats asking for an injury or worse.
Well looking at it, it was expected, but did she do it on purpose, I don't think so.

I don't think even the guys currently being talked about are that stupid, atleast I hope not...
01-31-2012 04:38 PM
snowvols
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He does have a point but the video in discussion is not how you do it
I'd agree with you if your snowpack wasn't shit like ours. When you have facets to the ground and the slide doesn't take the facets with it all it is doing is setting it up to go again.
01-31-2012 04:36 PM
cjcameron11 So are we saying it was kinda expected to slide in this vid? seems to me thats asking for an injury or worse.
01-31-2012 04:36 PM
Milo303 I was sledneckin with a guy last week who was making things go just for the thrill of it, stupid

However, a guy I consider a sledneckin buddy triggered one on Jones pass a couple days ago on purpose for the reason that it will become rideable soon.

You can trigger them on purpose with sleds by doing small high marks and it's fairly safe, but you don't send a body down from the top.... Well, I wouldn't be that person atleast.
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