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05-27-2012 06:50 PM
davidj
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Originally Posted by Nivek View Post
In that case I'd look at the 155 OG Flat. That's actually what I rode as my park stick most of last year.
For me at 155lbs the 151 made a killer park board that I could jib and jump, and the 153 made a good jump and all mountain board. So figure the 155 would fit like inbetween the two, but for you. So a little less jibbable and a little less mountain oriented.

Or do the 156 Omni and be totally set for park and all mountain.
OG Flat, huh? I'll check it out. Thanks!
05-27-2012 05:50 PM
Nivek In that case I'd look at the 155 OG Flat. That's actually what I rode as my park stick most of last year.
For me at 155lbs the 151 made a killer park board that I could jib and jump, and the 153 made a good jump and all mountain board. So figure the 155 would fit like inbetween the two, but for you. So a little less jibbable and a little less mountain oriented.

Or do the 156 Omni and be totally set for park and all mountain.
05-27-2012 08:56 AM
davidj
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Originally Posted by Nivek View Post
54 is a fine size. I can ride the 52 everywhere and I'm 155ish lbs.

As for the minimal amount or camber. The industry basically allows you to call anything zero +/- like 2-3mm of camber/rocker. It takes so little weight to level out that much camber it basically isn't there.

The reason for it is the way a snowboard is pressed. With there being a heat blanket on the top and bottom, depending on initial resin temp, ambient temp in the factory, the difference in temperature between the blankets, the overall temperature the press gets too, the small variations in wood grain... those all effect the level of camber in a deck.
I already have a Westmark for park style riding. Thinking of getting a longer Park Flat to be more of a do-it-all board for those days when I can't or don't want to decide between all mountain and park. I was thinking a longer, hence stiffer, Park Flat would be such a board. I'm 180-185 lbs. Is 158 the longest that the Part Flat goes? How stable will this board be for charging groomers and variable snow conditions at my weight? Skill level - progressing intermediate.
04-18-2012 04:08 PM
CheeseForSteeze I rode both now. I prefer the Evo but that is because I camber designs that are based on center reverse camber. 3 stage is meh, to me, I'd rather just have flat or camber with micro-rocker in the tips. The Park Zero is an awesome board and dollar for dollar probably the best buy you can get considering the quality of base.
04-18-2012 02:47 PM
looking4snow So, Evo 2012 vs Park Flat 2012. Who had ridden both?
03-06-2012 03:00 PM
BltByKrmn
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Originally Posted by CheeseForSteeze View Post
So from Park Zero to Evo, without having an Evo on hand (and not having ridden the 2012) I can't really say. I can say they're all (Westmark, Evo, Park Zero) very close that you should pick based on which camber profile you like to ride, durability, sidecut preference and price over the minor differences in flex.
I have a 11/12 Evo 157 that I've only had a chance to ride for about 10 hours total and just picked up a Park Zero 156. It's interesting to hear people think these boards are so close in performance and feel since there's a huge difference in price. Once I get a chance to ride the Park Zero I may end up selling the Evo and pocketing the difference.
02-16-2012 02:45 AM
Bayoh I agree the base is tough. After running over a few rocks and hitting yet another hidden tree stump this season, I stopped caring about what's in my way. The base got a few scratches at worst when I was fully expecting to end up with thick gouges instead. It's on par or maybe even tougher than my Never Summer SL's base in durability.

The entire board's construction overall is rock solid... and might I also add, very light too.

No fancy tech, but great quality for it's price.
02-11-2012 10:29 PM
Nivek
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These just went on sale at one of my local shops, definitely considering pulling the trigger. Would a 154 Park Flat be too small at 175ish lbs? Would only be using this board on jibs and medium size jumps less than 40ft.
54 is a fine size. I can ride the 52 everywhere and I'm 155ish lbs.

As for the minimal amount or camber. The industry basically allows you to call anything zero +/- like 2-3mm of camber/rocker. It takes so little weight to level out that much camber it basically isn't there.

The reason for it is the way a snowboard is pressed. With there being a heat blanket on the top and bottom, depending on initial resin temp, ambient temp in the factory, the difference in temperature between the blankets, the overall temperature the press gets too, the small variations in wood grain... those all effect the level of camber in a deck.
02-10-2012 02:34 PM
CheeseForSteeze Keep in mind the Westmark might actually be stiffer but rocker makes it feel more playful. My Westmark has broken in quite nicely which makes me somewhat sad because I know one day the base will be beyond rideable and I'll have to break in another one all over again.

I have a Draft sitting on my porch right now, I'm going to take it out but my impression is it will be a shade too soft to hit that Goldie Locks just right spot. This is quite nitpicky though.

I haven't been on the Sub-Z but I have been on the Swindle and this board definitely is a bit beefier than that board was. Now, I found the Evo to be less playful than the Westmark (again, keep in mind it recambers in the tips) but it might have very well been softer than the Westmark. So from Park Zero to Evo, without having an Evo on hand (and not having ridden the 2012) I can't really say. I can say they're all (Westmark, Evo, Park Zero) very close that you should pick based on which camber profile you like to ride, durability, sidecut preference and price over the minor differences in flex.
02-10-2012 10:12 AM
jliu Nice review Cheese

I'm actually very surprised that you found the flex to be the same if not stiffer than the westmark out of the box. I always had the notion it was quite a bit softer than the Westmark...more of a jibber than jumper/beefed up park board. Im guessing its flex is much stiffer than say a Subzero and a shade stiffer than an Evo?
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