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02-12-2012 01:04 PM
PanHandler its funny. something that can take maybe 3 minutes to show on a mountain takes 5 days and 11 pages to explain on a forum haha
02-11-2012 05:29 PM
SnowKanin Wow, I almost had a headache myself while I was reading this thread for awhile! lol, glad you all were able to get your tricks straightened out for the most part.

I have learned alot from this thread though, thank you all for posting the videos and explaining popping and the ollie in detail. I was one who was new to boarding last year and all I had heard about was the ollie. I watched some videos and proceeded to hit larger and larger jumps, attepmting to ollie off of every one. I was doing ok, but it was'nt as smooth as I wanted. This ollie fallacy I had going actually ended up bringing my season to a close a day early as I approached a medium sized, fairly steep kicker way to fast for my skill level. I was in the back seat as I came off the lip, making sure I got my "attempted" ollie in, and wouldnt you know it.... I ended up 8 feet in the air, with my board straight out in front of me, just waiting to fall back to the park snowpack and onto my left shoulder. I also ended up snapping the core in the front of my board I landed so hard. Live and learn!

After reading through this thread, I'm super excited to get back out there at my next opportunity and work on "popping" off of the jump, the proper way!

Thanks for the insights guys!
02-08-2012 05:15 PM
jdang307 Thanks. No wonder.

When I heard pop off the lip, rollers and jumps I kept thinking Ollie. The ollie was throwing me off and I was almost landing on my toes, not balanced

I love that of all the distractions behind you, the one time you peek in the backfield is when the orangutan shows up at the 4:50 mark
02-08-2012 03:52 PM
jdang307
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You are doing the exact right thing for maintaining speed which will give you height and distance in the air. What I would do for even better results is modify your technique just a tiny bit to do both. Start your approach a little lower and only pump in the actual transition. Do not continue this gradual extension once you are riding up the ramp; it really does nothing for you past the transition anyway. Then, just before your front foot clears the lip, pop off by energetically and rapidly extending your legs the rest of the way. For even more pop, do this off of your toes to use your ankles and toes to extend a little more.
Is there a video for this? Or just to clarify.

Approach jump low. When getting to the transition I pump. That means I extend my legs, but not all the way, leaving a little spring so that when I hit the lip I pop off, extending my body all the way. Then pull the board in a little so I don't land on locked knees.

Is that correct? Just want to know if I pump up or down
02-08-2012 11:53 AM
IdahoFreshies not really sure honestly. the group (err, mob) is camping in the Area BFE lot, and its planned for 4 days of wheeling and probably some hiking.. Its a massive tacoma meet, at least 65+ camping with 100+ people interested/confirmed going. at first i was pretty adamant on not going because i didnt think i could build my truck in time, but after looking at all of the videos and pictures of the landscape and scenery there was no way i could miss that event, i would regret it for years to come. that place just looks so epic, and the scale of the group and the camaraderie will make for an atmosphere truly unique. i <3 utah
02-08-2012 03:36 AM
john doe
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Originally Posted by PanHandler View Post
feebles and smith grinds seem fairly impossible in snowboarding since theres no trucks to lock on with.
If you have a board with a bunch of camber and really push down on your front foot you might get to something that looks like a smith. Feebles are just missed 50-50's so don't bother with those.
02-07-2012 11:59 PM
IdahoFreshies
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Well fine be that way! Just go ride some powder..... oh wait..... nevermind...
high 40's all week!!!!! with no snow in sight! sad to say but my mind has basically switched off of snowboarding. now im 100% focused on making enough money (and finding the build time) so i can get my truck built in time for my 4 day moab off roading trip in may. some where school has to come in there. but i think i can make it work. i really had this whole list of spots i wanted to film at my local hill and put together a little movie at the end of this season, but the way it looks there isnt much time left for that. so i might just be SOL. this year was a complete bust. a 100% throw away, never experienced anything that was such a let down as this winter.
02-07-2012 07:09 PM
PanHandler
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Originally Posted by CheeseForSteeze View Post
Either a front board or back lip, you'd have to see the approach and which foot passes over. If he's doing this on middle of a trail, it's called being a dick and messing up the snow

Anyway, lipslides are a lot harder (for me) than boards. The act of rotating so your back foot goes over feels a lot different. That difference is probably the reason skaters came up with that naming convention. I drew this little masterpiece in paint, maybe it will help. It's hard to do with still pictures.

Attachment 7310

Now snowboarders want to try to do smith grinds, feebles, nose smith/scum, overscum/nose feeble ... it's ridiculous, snowboards don't have trucks so i don't see a point in naming those.
feebles and smith grinds seem fairly impossible in snowboarding since theres no trucks to lock on with.
02-07-2012 02:20 PM
CheeseForSteeze
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Okay, I think I got it. The determining factor of whether it is called a Boardslide or a Lipslide is which foot travels over the box?

Okay, what is it called if in either case if the rider is facing uphill and sliding down backwards?
Either a front board or back lip, you'd have to see the approach and which foot passes over. If he's doing this on middle of a trail, it's called being a dick and messing up the snow

Anyway, lipslides are a lot harder (for me) than boards. The act of rotating so your back foot goes over feels a lot different. That difference is probably the reason skaters came up with that naming convention. I drew this little masterpiece in paint, maybe it will help. It's hard to do with still pictures.

Attachment 7310

Now snowboarders want to try to do smith grinds, feebles, nose smith/scum, overscum/nose feeble ... it's ridiculous, snowboards don't have trucks so i don't see a point in naming those.
02-07-2012 12:34 PM
PanHandler Thanks to this thread i had a crazy dream that skiers were stealing our tricks and the resorts werent allowing us to ride there anymore .
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