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04-04-2012 12:49 PM
CheeseForSteeze They have white p-tex. They might have other color sticks but I haven't seen them so I would guess they aren't readily available. Either way, I don't mind my board being all mixed up in color.
04-04-2012 11:51 AM
Snowbeard
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ptex of course.
Haha, of course! Did you have the blu or black base? Does ptex come in any other color besides black?
04-03-2012 07:16 PM
KIRKRIDER
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The base isn't bad as far as getting core shot more than other bases but it definitely just dings up like crazy.

True.

And also...A-Frame, season 2 (40 days total on the board) I have water infiltrating a small area the top sheet around the forward most set of screws, on the back foot section. The top is lifting a bit and it got much darker under. I'll fix it at the end of the season.
04-03-2012 07:00 PM
CheeseForSteeze ptex of course.
04-03-2012 05:08 AM
Snowbeard And what did they fill the gap with?
04-02-2012 09:40 PM
CheeseForSteeze Any "good" shop should be able to figure out real quickly if the board is edge high enough to warrant filled the gap just by handling it. You can check yourself with a true bar or some substitute instrument like a level or other precise straight edge (carpenter's square). Usually only happens if you ride your edges a lot. If your edges are always dry and free of wax, you might have a chance to be edge high.

The only way to know for sure though, is to measure.

I imagine if they stoneground the base, they'll probably fill in the gaps, too. A stonegrind is worthless if the end result isn't bringing the base back to a nice, flat surface.
04-02-2012 08:45 PM
Snowbeard
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The base isn't bad as far as getting core shot more than other bases but it definitely just dings up like crazy. You won't notice it until you go get a good base job and stonegrind done; it's like night and day afterwards. Mine was so pitted up with small gouges, it was edge high which they had to fill in to get it flush again but after the stonegrind it looked brand new and was even faster than my other out of the box Westmark 50.

If you ride more than 40 days a season, plan on getting at least one stonegrind done, especially if you abuse your board.
Will any shop be able to check to see if my board is edge hit or base high? I had a deep shot repaired after only a couple times out and they did a stonegrind then... Does that automatically take care of the problem of the base not being,flat or does that have to be specifically addressed?
03-28-2012 01:08 PM
jdang307
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So I waxed again before I took it out again and about an hour into the day I checked the base and it looked dry again. Upon further inspection, the stuff does scrape off. It didn't seem to affect my speed, but I have to wonder what the cause of this is. My other bases have never done this. Could it be the wax I used? It was toko all temp stuff. Anyways, it doesn't seem to affect the performance of the board, which is great!
It could be the base is just grabbing onto/holding onto outgoing wax, more than other boards. After a weekend in Tahoe my Coda does the same thing.

My wife, who doesn't spend two seconds looking at boards or on the internet or know a thing about snowboarding other than strapping in and going down the hill, looked at it when I was looking at it, and said, "oh that's just wax." How the hell does she know? But I think she's right.
03-28-2012 09:56 AM
CheeseForSteeze The base isn't bad as far as getting core shot more than other bases but it definitely just dings up like crazy. You won't notice it until you go get a good base job and stonegrind done; it's like night and day afterwards. Mine was so pitted up with small gouges, it was edge high which they had to fill in to get it flush again but after the stonegrind it looked brand new and was even faster than my other out of the box Westmark 50.

If you ride more than 40 days a season, plan on getting at least one stonegrind done, especially if you abuse your board.
03-28-2012 09:48 AM
Snowbeard I am thinking that perhaps, I should have used a prep wax or renewal wax before I just threw the regular wax on it because it was dry when I got it. It may just need to really be saturated and put a base layer of wax on first. Also could be the crappy wax I am using, haha! Conditions have been slow overall on the east coast anyways, but it still rides like a dream.
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