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|09-15-2012 09:56 PM|
timmytard. Got it. Thanks for another very useful reply.
HoBoMaster. You are right. Everything depends. Snowboarding is not nanoscience. Go with feel and have a great run out there.
|09-15-2012 12:12 PM|
|HoboMaster||Monkey with it until it feels right, completely depends on personal comfort / riding style. I've tried rotating my highbacks and didn't really notice a difference (or didn't like the difference... can't remember).|
|09-15-2012 11:44 AM|
Originally Posted by ig88 View Post
Ya, I knew you wouldn't have a clue what I was talking about, thanks for not taking offense to my little test.
I couldn't be happier than to explain that too someone who clearly wants to know.
The Rotating of the binding doesn't have anything to do with the forward lean aspect of it really.
Now a days the size of the highback is so monstrous. They used to be miniscule, about the height of a hiking boot. If you couldn't rotate it, it starts to get in the way & prevents your leg from moving laterally.
Not all people need that much lateral movement though, very few really.
There is just such a large variety of styles.
Some park rats really tweak out their boards & half pipe guys like crazy forward lean.
It's just easier to make an adjustable binding, rather than a separate different one.
Here is a picture that might explain why things are the way they are.
Damien Sanders: Hard boot tweaker.
|09-15-2012 10:39 AM|
Originally Posted by timmytard View Post
Guess what, I never had a clue those screws were meant for adjustment of highback rotations. Now it's like I were revisiting my bindings as though they were some new toys haha.
But many thanks for the elaboration and your kind intention. Actually I was trying to post back before your possible next post, just to ask you again ...... now I have figured out what highback rotations are all about in the classroom, how does it, if at all, relate to forward lean.
Actually I have got some idea already from the youtube videos on highback rotations. One short video says that rotating the highbacks will improve your heelside response. If you would agree with that, then I suppose rotating the highbacks will complement increasing the forward lean. And because of this alleged relationship, one could potentially ease up on cranking up way too much forward lean for the purpose of increasing heelside edge hold/ response. The problem with too much forward lean as I have read will hurt our calves.
Oh yes. And my belated answer to your earlier question if I had rotated my highbacks ...... obviously, haha, no I have not. But I sure will have one more parameter to look into next time I hit the slopes.
When I read you description of bindings with the alleged stance ( / / ), it really got me wondering who would use that. I bet the high speed alpine boarders. Cheers timmytard.
|09-15-2012 09:54 AM|
Originally Posted by ig88 View Post
Some people don't really need to rotate them, it depends on how much of an angle the bindings are set @. I usually only do my front foot because it's @ a sharper angle than my back foot. They rotate in both directions because some people still ride with their bindings like this. ( / / ) mine are close to this ( l / ) that's why I only need to do my front foot. If you ride with a severe duck stance like so ( \ / ) then it would be wise to adjust both of them.
I purposely asked if you had rotated them, & gave very little info about what I was talking about just to see if you could figure it out on your own.
I think it helps you understand your bindings better if you fiddle with them yourself & learn how they work.
I just didn't think all these Donney Do-gooders were gonna jump in & explain it for me. Thanks Donney Do-gooders
I have a few pairs of Burton bindings, 3 are the old style forward lean adjusters & 1 pair is the new type like yours.
The old style of Burton forward lean adjustment seems to brake very easily, I have 3 pair, so 6 bindings. All 6 adjusters are broken.
I am able to adjust the forward lean, but I have to use the rotating adjustment to do it. It works on the new style(yours) as well.
When you have the rotating adjustment loosened so that it moves freely & you have it where you think you want it. If you slide both of them a couple notches forward(not rotationally) towards the toe side of your board it will decrease your forward lean & sliding them back a couple notches will increase it.
I'm not sure it was designed to be able to do that or not, but it does work.
|09-15-2012 07:20 AM|
yes the high back should be paralle, but i do not keep mine paralle. i just got used to it how it is. i believe that it helps with heel side turning but i have no idea.
how this ties in with forward lean idk. my bindings are burton cartels and they come with zero lean. just the way i like it.
maybe this will help with that.
What is Forward Lean on Snowboard Bindings? - The House Boardshop
|09-15-2012 07:03 AM|
Thanks snowklinger and 509-pow for the efforts. I think I got it now. I think the first youtube link in 509-pow's post well explained it. I just realize that that's one setting I could (I never knew) change, and it appears it could be changed either way too, that is, either more parallel, or more unparallel.
May I assume that if I say "rotated the high backs", that would mean rotated the high backs to more parallel?
What would happen if the high backs are parallel, and how does that tie in with forward lean?
|09-15-2012 06:43 AM|
if this dosnt make sense idk what will. haha. the house videos on youtube have been a great help to me. hope it helps u too.
Snowboard Binding Setup: Part 9- Highback Rotation - YouTube
Snowoard Binding Setup Par 10- Forward Lean - YouTube
|09-15-2012 06:33 AM|
Originally Posted by snowklinger View Post
Is this heel cup thing present in all bindings? You sure I could also find it in mine?
I will get back to this topic/ thread later after some reflections
|09-15-2012 03:42 AM|
Its kind of a crappy diagram but I could find it quickest. If you look at where your highback attaches to the heel loop - 2points of contact. You should be able to rotate the highback within the heel loop. There are usually 3-4 positions or holes u can move those 2 points of contact. Now you can see that in the different positions, the highback will rotate around the heel cup. If you ride an average "duck" stance of say 15degrees on both the front and back foot, and just slap your bindings on in the default highback attachment, they will probably look like the top diagram. Looking down at your board on the floor, the highbacks when up, will not run with the edge of the board but crooked. Now try rotating them so that they run parallel to the edge of the board.
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