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10-08-2012 12:05 PM
sabatoa
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Originally Posted by marcdeo View Post
THE REPLY: and may I say WOW, how quick they were to respond. VERY IMPRESSED!!!!!!!!!

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Hello! I have a few questions that I was unable to locate answers for online.

The Proto: Is it a TRUE TWIN? It states it is on the website but some of the reviews I read state that it is Directional twin with regards to flex pattern.

The SL - (a) Are the shape and sidecut twin? (b) what about flex pattern? I have read that if you shift the bindings forward the SL is essentially true twin, however if the sidecut is NOT true twin, it would not become a true twin if I slid the binding forward to a cantered stance.

Im getting one or the other for sure - cant make up my mind :-)

thank you!

Hi Marc,

The Proto CT is a true twin in every way, sidecuts, flex patterns, and binding stance. The SL is a directional twin, so it has symmetrical sidecuts and flex patterns with the binding stance slightly set back. If you move the bindings forward, you will get a ride like that of a true twin. Hope this helps!

Thanks for the support of NS!




....AND NOW my decision is that much harder, LOL!

sweeet. Good to know for myself too.
10-08-2012 11:41 AM
marcdeo THE REPLY: and may I say WOW, how quick they were to respond. VERY IMPRESSED!!!!!!!!!

(Copy and Pasted)

Hello! I have a few questions that I was unable to locate answers for online.

The Proto: Is it a TRUE TWIN? It states it is on the website but some of the reviews I read state that it is Directional twin with regards to flex pattern.

The SL - (a) Are the shape and sidecut twin? (b) what about flex pattern? I have read that if you shift the bindings forward the SL is essentially true twin, however if the sidecut is NOT true twin, it would not become a true twin if I slid the binding forward to a cantered stance.

Im getting one or the other for sure - cant make up my mind :-)

thank you!

Hi Marc,

The Proto CT is a true twin in every way, sidecuts, flex patterns, and binding stance. The SL is a directional twin, so it has symmetrical sidecuts and flex patterns with the binding stance slightly set back. If you move the bindings forward, you will get a ride like that of a true twin. Hope this helps!

Thanks for the support of NS!




....AND NOW my decision is that much harder, LOL!
10-08-2012 10:49 AM
sabatoa Cool. It'd be nice to know officially once and for all.
10-08-2012 10:40 AM
marcdeo
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Originally Posted by jdang307 View Post
It needs confirmation from Vman/Vince or NS themselves, but an older post had the author saying they actually contacted NS, and they said if you adjust it, it is a twin.

Then again, it's a 1/2" setback. Who's going to really notice that.

SL describes it as a twin shape. that would mean the sidecut as well. It's best to contact NS, but again, who would notice a 1/2" setback. If you are good enough to notice it, you're good enough to ride it too IMO.
I threw in an email to NS re: the Proto's flex, as well as the SL "true twin capability" with regards to it's sidecut. I'll post up their reply.
10-07-2012 10:55 PM
jdang307
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Originally Posted by hktrdr View Post
Exactly that. Most people have no idea how the stance position/setback relates to the sidecut (as opposed to just the position along the length of the board). An SL does not become a true twin simply by slapping the bindings on the board without setback.
Don't even get me started on flex...
It needs confirmation from Vman/Vince or NS themselves, but an older post had the author saying they actually contacted NS, and they said if you adjust it, it is a twin.

Then again, it's a 1/2" setback. Who's going to really notice that.

SL describes it as a twin shape. that would mean the sidecut as well. It's best to contact NS, but again, who would notice a 1/2" setback. If you are good enough to notice it, you're good enough to ride it too IMO.
10-07-2012 08:52 PM
mjd Niche Aether 156= fun.
10-07-2012 06:40 PM
Kurver From researching the Proto myself I remember it being a true twin (no setback, twin flex). I do remember reading something about directional flex, but I think it was in regard to how the longitudinal flex is stiffer than the torsional flex, not that the tail is any stiffer than the nose or vice versa.
10-07-2012 06:38 PM
marcdeo
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Originally Posted by Leo View Post
The board doesn't know if you have fat or muscle weight. It just knows you have

In other words, don't size down just because you're muscle weight rather than fat weight. If anything, like someone already pointed out, it's worse to size down if you're super strong.

There's a rainbow at the end of this scene though, the Proto CT is blunted. This means it's actually a longer board than it is because the tips were cut shorter. So that 154 is actually more like a 156. I weigh 180 and ride the 157 and have no desire to size down. I'm the same way as you in the park; smaller features. However, I do hit whatever I find on the slopes. I also jump more than I jib. If you're into hitting jumps, a 154 won't be as good as a 157.

By the way, I would warn against centering your stance on a board with a setback. Unless of course the sidecut isn't centered around the setback stance (it normally is). I'm not sure if the SL has a centered sidecut with a setback stance. By all accounts though, the SL only has a slight setback so you really don't even need to center it.

/2cents
Not downsizing at all because of my physical attributes, I simply found that while riding the coda, I found doing jumps/spins a little more trying than with my shorter board, since I already shave a 158 and a 161, I'm looking for something a bit more playful but shorter, and since the proto has a longer effective edge BUT is shorter with a blunted nose, I though I might just get the best of both worlds. I ride out east (Ontario Canada) but this year I am doing 3 trips 1- big white&revy 2- whistler 3- Stowe......
10-07-2012 06:34 PM
marcdeo I only mentioned my weight as a joke with regards to the "girth" comment. I didn't mean to imply that weight isn't weight, or I'm somehow special because I'm not a fatty. (Nor am I Hercules)

I too was wondering about the side cut on the SL, since it relates to binding placement which would be off if I shifted the bindings forward on the SL

ALSO..... Here is a review in which the reviewer states the proto has DIRECTIONAL flex. The NS website does not really specifically mention flex pattern in the proto specs but they do call it a true twin... So I'm still unsure. (Not that i dont trust you guys - you guys are insanely knowledgeable and ive learned SO MUCH here) looks like I will be be firing of an email to NS..

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10-07-2012 10:56 AM
61ragtop If you like the coda then why not get the Westmark? Thats what I have done for this year. A true twin and a little more playful
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