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|11-02-2012 07:35 PM|
3L is professional grade material, (pro shell or soft shell) on the hover pants and jackets. Very tough material, much thicker than the 2L fabric, and yes its a little crunchier. I have a full outfit of 3L proshell, and last year I got a 2L jacket out of a deep discount rack, it was so cheap I bought it even though I had no use for it. 3L pro shell feels like it will last a lifetime, while 2L feels like a windbreaker in comparison.
The other fabric that is labelled 3L is in the freebird jacket - it is goretex pro stretch rip stop 40D. This is a completely different gig. It's way lighter than 2L or 3L, feels almost delicate. If you have tons of dough and want to have an ultralight superbreathable shell this is for you, you can stuff it in a tiny backpack and wear it for heliboarding in golden powder where it won't suffer wear.
So 3L pro shell and soft shell is top of the line with focus on durability, while pro stretch focuses on ultralight weight performance. That said the 2L stuff is good too.
Since the OP seems to fund his outerwear off an erratic bonus program I recommend the durability of 3l pro shell to get him through till those cheap bastards pay another bonus in 2017.
|11-02-2012 06:25 PM|
The AK Stagger jacket has some zonal insulation, so it is warmer than the other 2Ls. I went with that jacket last season and have absolutely no regrets. I used to have some Burton Stagger pants years ago, but they fell apart at the cuffs... I have since gone with some Volcom Gore-tex pants and they are much more functional and feel more bombproof.
If you like to layer, get the 3L and call it a day. If you hate layering up a bunch (like me), go for the Stagger with a bit of insulation.
|11-02-2012 06:17 PM|
Originally Posted by hktrdr View Post
|11-02-2012 06:13 PM|
Thanks for helping out Skinny! I appreciate your help. All the best!!
|11-02-2012 06:11 PM|
|Skinny Bam||I did a little research because I always wondered what the big difference is between 3l and 2l and found a very technical description. Ill save you guys the reading and it just comes down to the 3L being more durable and having more breathability in really instense conditions. The 3L will also feel and sound crunchier If I were you I would probably just go with whichever model has the better look that I like because all AK gear has a lifetime warranty. Unless you do splitboarding or BC riding the 3L is probably overkill|
|11-02-2012 04:40 PM|
Originally Posted by poutanen View Post
|11-02-2012 09:00 AM|
I think you should get in on my virus group buy instead!!!
That said, if both will have the same warmth, but the 3L will have better moisture resistance, etc. I'd get the 3L. Gear lasts me a LONG time so it's worth buying good stuff. I still wear a jacket from about 10 years ago!
|11-02-2012 05:22 AM|
It's a bonus buy, got the 3l.
Note that the 3l comes two ways:
Pro shell, and soft shell.
I prefer pro shell, feels more bulletproof to me.
|11-02-2012 04:36 AM|
|11-02-2012 01:56 AM|
|Skinny Bam||3L has pow grips! Lol it says its a 3 layer but the warmth rating is the same as the 2L. I think there may be more pockets in the 3L too|
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