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11-10-2012 02:49 PM
jza Helping the local rep has helped a lot with a lot of the stuff that I know. If it is a product I am behind I have no problem doing some research. Far too many people bash bataleons tech for one simple reason... it's different from what the traditional snowboard/binding/outerwear looks/rides/feels like.

I am flattered by that comment, Phony
11-10-2012 10:00 AM
phony_stark Phenomenal Knowledge, jza. You're normally the guy I look to for all things "TBT" related.

Yeah for it stoked me out last year. Thanks to Nivek for recommending the Whatever. I'd be perfectly happy if I only had that to ride.
11-10-2012 05:26 AM
jza Any Switchbacks that were on MTN last year were proto's and they were a constant work in progress.

The final products came with a locking highback. If you have a pair in your hand you can get what I am talking about. The straps dont have screw and bolt like most other brands do,.. they feature for lack of a better word a pin that holds the ankle strap into place. Just trying to reassure to anyone who has doubts about these bindings that they are in fact well thought out and executed perfectly. Only thing these are missing is a forward lean adjuster.

Helgason pro models also have permanently attached highback unlike the regular models which are just "clicked in" to the baseplace. I tried to pull one of the highbacks off a binding the other day and couldn't do it easily like I could to a proto pair last year

Word is they have been going NUTS in Europe and they have already done a re-order for THIS season. Colors also carry over into next years line up so you aren't going to have any trouble fitting next years parts onto this years bindings and there will be new colorways added.

Bataleon has really thought this idea through and it is just another way they are making something extremely exclusive to them that no one has ever done before. It is most definitely a great product and it's better product than some bindings that have been produced by big companies for years
11-10-2012 05:03 AM
jza the final product came out sick as well. anything that was on mtn last winter was not final product. Highbacks lock into place which gold the ankle strap in tight with its "lock in pins"
11-09-2012 01:13 AM
Originally Posted by phony_stark View Post
Pretty sure they've tested this....and someone probably rode faster than you.

I wouldn't worry.
This. I rode them through the shit rink that is Winter Park. They didn't fall apart.
11-08-2012 02:07 PM
phony_stark Pretty sure they've tested this....and someone probably rode faster than you.

I wouldn't worry.
11-08-2012 06:18 AM
CheoSamad My only real worry about switchbacks are the responsiveness of the high back and what if going 45 down the mountain my binding falls apart from the chatter and all of a sudden I have no board.
11-08-2012 01:41 AM
phony_stark 1. You're clearly not proto-ing for burton or union. That's a shame, because I feel like they make the best clamps out right now. Super curious about the NOW bindings though.

2. Aware, but I was using transitive properties. You were saying this year's Cartel Highback is soft. I know it to be stiffer than last year's, so I compared the malavitas to last year's cartel and feel that it's about the same. So perhaps this year's cartel is the unintelligible 3% stiffer than the Vitas.

Anyway, I think torsional softness is a good thing, I only want my bindings to be stiff straight back anyway.
11-08-2012 01:21 AM
Originally Posted by phony_stark View Post
softer torsionally? or softer straight back? or both?

I've got it on good authority, I think supra does too, that it's 3% stiffer than last years. I had last year's reflex cartels and, yeah, I guess they didn't feel any stiffer than the malavitas, but they definitely weren't softer.
3%? What does that even mean? How do you even measure that?

Softer torsionally. Vastly so. The 2012 and 2013 highbacks are completely different.
11-08-2012 01:21 AM
Supra this year's malavita base is the same as the genesis, so more light weight than last year's
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