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11-09-2012 02:32 AM
ppan Hey guys thank you very much for the help on that.

Well, after all your feedback it looks that i am pretty sure about the goliath (either 160W or 161). Everytime when I have to purchase something a bit more expensive you have to chose once and ignore all the ifs, whens and buts

I will head to my local dealer tomorrow and have a short talk with him again, he pretty much knows the stuff and he will probably give me last few tipps regarding length and about taking a WIDE or not when he sees my boots and bindings.

I will give you an update.

I also have had a short look on the whatever. Looks very nice actually ... even nicer than the goliath ... but then is the max length again of 159 ... in the end, I think coming from a over 7 year old board, either of them will bring me to a new level of snowboarding, so I probably stick to the goliath.

I rather make some compromises in the spining performance with taking a longer board, because hitting fresh powder always draws a big fucking smile on my face, and even if only once a week you have a good powder run for 10 minutes, beeing ready for this one will be worth it ... i just love to fly through the snow

how about buttering / jibbing, it wont make much of a difference choosing between 159 - 163 ?
11-08-2012 08:46 PM
extra0 hell, I couldn't even ride switch at all until I got on bataleon....still not great at it either, but at least I can do it now.

I do love the undisputed, though....but, for me, the sweet spot binding placement is exactly the inserts they took out in front of the "back seat" inserts. Took me a long time to find one, but I've got a brand new 2011 undisputed (pre-back seat) in the wrapper waiting to pounce (maybe not the first pow day, but as soon as there's a decent base)
11-08-2012 06:17 PM
Triple8Sol I also owned the Undisputed in a couple different sizes, and while I found it better in pow than the Omni, I was not a huge fan of it either to be perfectly honest. I should've been more clear, it was a combination of taper and setback inserts on both boards that made switch riding more awkward, granted I'm not the best switch rider by any means.
11-08-2012 05:21 PM
extra0 The Omni is a budget version of the Undisputed. Only difference is the Omni doesn't have carbon and it comes in a lot more/smaller sizes.

The taper is practically non-existant on the Omni and doesn't affect me at all switch. Only reason I, personally, would say no to even the sintered Omni is the stiffness isn't really there for a hardcore pow board (I also don't like the "back seat" insert setup because it steals the next insert option). Over all, as an all mtn board, it could be pretty cool...but it's definitely leaning toward off-piste and deeper snow.
11-08-2012 04:46 PM
Triple8Sol I owned an Omni and I say no on that one. Definitely no on the older ones with a slower extruded base, but the newer ones have gone to sintered. I found the taper unnecessary since TBT floats enough without it and it makes riding switch unnecessarily awkward.
11-08-2012 04:35 PM
phony_stark Nah it makes sense. The boards are EXTREMELY well made.

Like, I read all this insane TBT hype and from first strap-in was SUPER surprised with how it....delivered. It was light, poppy, fast edge to edge and forgiving. I'm also pretty clumsy when it comes to carves so the extra two degrees I have to tilt benefits me.

They're just rad boards.
11-08-2012 01:34 PM
jza I'm sorry if that response made no sense whatsoever, Phony.

Basically what my closing comment was is that Bataleon is a CORE company through and through and I personally believe that they are using a technology that when their patent is up EVERY snowboard company is going to be using it. SO many companies (burton included) are raising edges in their boards in spots that make little to no sense trying to imitate TBT but they are failing horribly.
11-08-2012 01:31 PM
jza It wasn't that I didn't like them, there was just other boards in the line that I liked a lot more. The whatever I rode was also a 156 wide I think and we just didn't get along.

I don't think bataleon makes a bad board to be totally honest. Being a high quality producer with no real sport store pricepoints it allows them to break away from the mold and really focus on building the best rider oriented decks.

What I mean by that is I notice with a lot of companies who sell at stores like sportschek, sports authority or any stores like that they are just putting shit materials inside their decks and putting shit graphics and a shit base on and labelling it a snowboard. Burton did this for YEARS and may still with the Bullet.
11-08-2012 01:12 PM
phony_stark Yeah, the Jam or the's got a lil taper on it.

(I haven't ridden either.)

JZA what did you like about the Whatever and the Goliath? I think that a barrel of monkeys doesn't have SHIT on the whatever.
11-08-2012 12:43 PM
jza Oh yeah, if you are riding pow with it a ton I probably wouldnt suggest going that small.

Maybe check the jam. I rode the goliath and whatever and didnt really feel for either of them.
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