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11-10-2012 04:15 AM
snowklinger I've read this thread several times over the last few days and I simply thank fuck that between snowboarding, work, and copious drug use, I have no idea what it is about, and I'm SO HAPPY!!!
11-09-2012 11:32 PM
phony_stark
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Originally Posted by henry06x View Post
Well your just one heck of an agreeable person aren't you? First you agree with that rep for needing to get this started. Now you agree with snow wolf that everyone needs to get over it (I do however also agree)... If there were a list of people to blame for this shitfest that has taken place over the last few day you would be right under that rep who started it all.

Okay I'm done now. This is annoying and I don't know why I just decided to get involved. Maybe it was the annoyance of it all, maybe it was boredom.
I agree. I think you were just bored.

If you're still bored, please find me evidence on how I started the shitstorm, the mods will probably disagree with you. In fact, I think I even helped you find a link on how to progress in the park better through Dave.

Anyway, it just dropped 8" at the local hill and they're gonna re-open on Sunday.
See you guys on the hill and on this board!
11-09-2012 11:05 PM
sxdaca
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Originally Posted by henry06x View Post
Well your just one heck of an agreeable person aren't you? First you agree with that rep for needing to get this started. Now you agree with snow wolf that everyone needs to get over it (I do however also agree)... If there were a list of people to blame for this shitfest that has taken place over the last few day you would be right under that rep who started it all.

Okay I'm done now. This is annoying and I don't know why I just decided to get involved. Maybe it was the annoyance of it all, maybe it was boredom.
This
11-09-2012 10:01 PM
Nivek
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Originally Posted by dreampow View Post
To the OP, in my opinion go with the tivas.

Some people clearly love union bindings and clearly the toe caps fit their boots, good for them.

Many people (not just the haters) find the straps don't fit well. I have seen many people make that same observation here in Japan as well as on this forum.

Just seems weird to an impartial like me that a company wouldn't try to address a clear issue raised by many customers.

Its like the response from union is "No you're wrong, the toe cap is perfect you just don't know how to use it right, we'll keep on making it the same way until you realize how to use it right".

Opinions are very subjective, everyone knows that.

Even though some members on here are very (way over the top) vocal in their preferences or dislike of certain brands those reading take it with a pinch of salt.

Anyone with any sense listens to pros and cons from a range of people then makes their OWN choice.

Its just gear, why shouldn't we be able to say what we think?

If its good gear there will be plenty of positive posts to balance the negative ones. Thats the point of a forum as opposed to a review site where people need to keep good relations with the companies.

Nivek is pretty vocal in his dislike for NS, fair enough, he prefers other boards.

Doesn't stop those who like NS recommending them on here. Let everyone have their say.

Its not the negative or positive opinions on gear that are the problem.
Its emotional, personal attacks that I would like to see the end of.

Just makes reading through a thread a pain in the ass and much longer than it needs to be.
Fucking hell. You nailed it.

And with this, I'm done. I'm gonna go snowboard now.
11-09-2012 08:54 PM
ThunderChunky
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Originally Posted by Snowolf View Post
Wow!

Been off of the site all week in Arizona and this is the shit show that has taken place? Christ people, it's a god damn pair of bindings; get over the retarded over emotional reactions to equipment.

Now, as far as this Johan goes. Is this really the way a professional rep chooses to represent his company? Instead of playing juvenile games like this contest, why not post here in good faith representing Union like other reps do on this site such as Rome and Neversummer and respectfully listen to the complaints people have and address the issue like a mature adult?

I unofficially represent Neversummer and if acted like you have, I would expect them to sever all ties to me because it makes the company look bad. If you want to see how a real rep communicates, read threads where Wiredsports is involved. That is how a professional behaves.

This entire thread is pathetic and the vitriol from all sides is ridiculous and makes the entire snowboarding culture look like a bunch of ignorant over opinionated idiots. I have ridden and reviewed Union bindings and in most areas I have found them to be decent. They are not perfect however and do have some things that need to be improved upon. I have done reviews on Rome as well and have said the same thing regarding their bindings. This isn't a blood sport where you swear undying fealty to a brand and defend it to the death. It's a piece if equipment than in another year or two, you won't even be riding it; let it go!
Wait....for real? Cause I've been riding this ESP board for ten fucking years.
11-09-2012 08:39 PM
dreampow To the OP, in my opinion go with the tivas.

Some people clearly love union bindings and clearly the toe caps fit their boots, good for them.

Many people (not just the haters) find the straps don't fit well. I have seen many people make that same observation here in Japan as well as on this forum.

Just seems weird to an impartial like me that a company wouldn't try to address a clear issue raised by many customers.

Its like the response from union is "No you're wrong, the toe cap is perfect you just don't know how to use it right, we'll keep on making it the same way until you realize how to use it right".

Opinions are very subjective, everyone knows that.

Even though some members on here are very (way over the top) vocal in their preferences or dislike of certain brands those reading take it with a pinch of salt.

Anyone with any sense listens to pros and cons from a range of people then makes their OWN choice.

Its just gear, why shouldn't we be able to say what we think?

If its good gear there will be plenty of positive posts to balance the negative ones. Thats the point of a forum as opposed to a review site where people need to keep good relations with the companies.

Nivek is pretty vocal in his dislike for NS, fair enough, he prefers other boards.

Doesn't stop those who like NS recommending them on here. Let everyone have their say.

Its not the negative or positive opinions on gear that are the problem.
Its emotional, personal attacks that I would like to see the end of.

Just makes reading through a thread a pain in the ass and much longer than it needs to be.
11-09-2012 06:14 PM
henry06x
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Originally Posted by phony_stark View Post
I agree with this.
Well your just one heck of an agreeable person aren't you? First you agree with that rep for needing to get this started. Now you agree with snow wolf that everyone needs to get over it (I do however also agree)... If there were a list of people to blame for this shitfest that has taken place over the last few day you would be right under that rep who started it all.

Okay I'm done now. This is annoying and I don't know why I just decided to get involved. Maybe it was the annoyance of it all, maybe it was boredom.
11-09-2012 05:26 PM
phony_stark
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Originally Posted by Snowolf View Post
Wow!

Christ people, it's a god damn pair of bindings; get over the retarded over emotional reactions to equipment.

let it go!
I agree with this.
11-09-2012 05:12 PM
henry06x It was around the time I joined here I was reading around EL also. Still do from time to time when I can't find what I'm looking for here. I'm sure there are a knowledgable guys there also. May have just been the majority of what was being talked about on EL are brands I'm just not interested in styling/design wise, not saying its bad product and they like the brands I do here. I like Ride and there seems to be nothing for hate about them every time I look on EL.

I think guys around here like Leo, Dave z, snowwolf (great detailed reviews), and Nivek (I know he dislikes mervin and union, but he has great knowledge about a lot of other brands) give great views on equipment. There is a very diverse group here IMO and I think generally you get a lot of pros and cons for every brand. Bios is probably more in one direction here and EL in the other direction, but you still hear the good about everything.
11-09-2012 04:25 PM
phony_stark This.

Especially the part that newer members and less experienced members of this forum are constantly being dictated to by a few guys who, while knowledgeable (I think), bristle at the fact that an opinion/experience can differ from theirs and refuse to defer even when they don't have as much experience with the product as someone else.

It takes a lot of credibility away from them and the forum itself, which is, by and large, a cool place. Shouts to Leo and Dave.
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