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12-16-2012 02:57 PM
megwell well i went to whistler for opening weekend a few weeks ago
i took my rossignol exprience ......first time riding it as it is 168 and i believe my burton custom flying v is about 156?

wow what a difference between the boards

i took advice for riding the flats and the things that were said here that i took with me the most is
1 someone said....... you can't catch and edge when you are on an edge
2 micro carves to slow down

i applied these two principals and possible with the new board.....made one hell of a difference

i only bailed in comparison to always bailing

overall i had a great time and i truely appreciate the advice as i believe it helped me out alot!
12-03-2012 06:02 AM
moesymoe It can be very difficult as a beginner to throw in quick, efficient turns on a narrow track.
Staying on a single edge can also be tricky as the natural camber in the board will bring you towards one side or other of the cat track.
Just trying to stay flat is also very problematic as described above and riding on a very low edge angle can be very difficult to master as a beginner.

To keep the board going straight and true while also avoiding the dreaded edge catch, I find it's good to pick an edge and focus on digging that edge in with your back foot while keeping the board flat with your front foot. This will ensure you avoid drifting towards the side and also prevents you catching an unwanted edge. I also find this easier on your leg muscles so there is much less burn, you can just relax and let the board ride.
12-02-2012 11:12 PM
Sincraft here is how I handled this last year.

Say the track is only 15' wide. Very hard for a new guy following some of these suggestions to turn left turn right. Carve, dynamic - whatever. Either we dont have the muscle knowledge, the stamina, or the mental fortitude to successfully complete this task.

I would recommend that you do as someone suggested, and hold an edge. You will favor the edge that keeps you in the middle of the slope the easiest, avoiding slowly going off the edge of the slope.

Once you feel you are picking up too much speed, thats when you do your almost stop turn up opposite of the trail slope, then immediately correct it back again to 'straight' holding that edge once more. This is an excercise to build up those leg muscles for stamina also.

The common thing for me was to hold onto my toe edge, which kept me from falling off the edge of the trail as it sloped on my heel side. I would then feel I was picking up too much speed or catching up with zig zagging skiers so I would have to slow down. To do this, I would kickout my back foot with an almost backwards stop , then straighten it out again holing my toe edge.

It wasnt until I was much better that I felt comfortable turning TOWARD the slope of the hill. That was almost always disastrous for me.

So in short, you are riding an edge opposite of the slope of the trail (im not talking about the fall line), then every so often do a speed check by almost stopping, then riding that edge again.

Dont try to turn back and forth, especially on a trail that isn't level and slopes down the mountain. Unless you have some speed, this is where most people say "well why can I turn toward the fall line on my heel side on the slpoe, but on the bunny trail I cannot not"

The answer is simple. centrifugal force. ( I think)
11-21-2012 09:58 AM
Originally Posted by ShredLife View Post
too many people get to the runout or the cat track and they stand up perfectly straight and start fucking with their iphone and the next thing you know - scorpion!
Too Fucking True. So guilty of this. Tweaked my forearm last year because of this. I had a nice section down one of the blues, stood up straight to go "YEAH" and bam, edge catch and scorp'd.

Not fun.
11-20-2012 09:52 AM
Originally Posted by krankedmusic View Post
Stay low to the ground and tail press. Lean heel to toe a bit to keep balance but practice is key.
This is how I learned to deal with long run outs. You can nose press as well.
11-19-2012 07:20 PM
Originally Posted by Slush Puppie View Post
or my preference, see if you can tail press the entire way
+1 this is actually how I learned to tail press. I found that when I was first starting out straight flat groomed runs got me too. So what I found is that applying or shifting your weight back helps a lot then just control speed with what has already mentioned mico carving or long drawn out carves so your on edge longer. what really fun is when you have a long flat transfer section that is littered with ppl that are slow or even stopped in the middle of the run and your bobbing and weaving them. I typically like to ice those sitting in the middle of the run usually followed up with a choice finger.
11-19-2012 07:10 PM
megwell I got your pm with the link snowolf
i had no idea that was you lol as i've seen many of your vids on youtube.

i can do what you suggested....... now imagine this though
on a cat track..... carving like that when there are a shit load of skiers going straight..... you end up cutting all of them off.......... so instead of taking up the whole cat track one has to take up maybe 4 feet without cutting off everyone else.
i'll also look into micro carving as well

cool of you to offer help

you guys rock here!
11-16-2012 01:34 PM
krankedmusic Stay low to the ground and tail press. Lean heel to toe a bit to keep balance but practice is key.
11-16-2012 01:16 PM
Originally Posted by wrathfuldeity View Post
I actually kind of do the opposite when riding flats, standing upright, relaxed, knees and ankles loose, shoulders/hips closed and weight on the nose. Btw OP, good practice is to skate/ride 1 footy down the bunny hills whenever possible. Though if you are screaming flat, i.e., bombing down a go low, more fore/aft centered and ride loose in the knees and sucking them up.
Oh ya, I was referring to if you point the nose of your board down a run and bomb the shit out of it. If I'm on a cat track I Stand up straight and very relaxed, usually pressing or 180s or dicking around.
11-15-2012 08:24 PM
Originally Posted by IdahoFreshies View Post
right here. Just having your edge in the snow a bit will keep you from catching that forward edge and doing the glorious scorpion. If you cant keep yourself truly flat based and pointed straight down hill then just switch back and forth between heel and toe edge while still staying pointed down hill.

also this. Being able to ride flat based and scream down a run just takes some refined muscle memory so you know how to react to the slightest little twitch and movement that the board makes that would other wise wipe you out. I mean these movements are such that if you actually thought about doing them then you would probably over do them and throw yourself off. Staying low and centered is the best way to ride flat base. You also can put a bit more weight on your back foot for more control.
I actually kind of do the opposite when riding flats, standing upright, relaxed, knees and ankles loose, shoulders/hips closed and weight on the nose. Btw OP, good practice is to skate/ride 1 footy down the bunny hills whenever possible. Though if you are screaming flat, i.e., bombing down a go low, more fore/aft centered and ride loose in the knees and sucking them up.
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