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11-17-2012 02:46 AM
scotty100
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Originally Posted by phony_stark View Post
Atlas.

I had contact pros on my Great Dudes, and they worked fab, good lateral flex and still responsive straight back, but the Atlas is my favorite binding ever of any that I've tried from any line. It's soft enough or stiff enough to be put on anything. They'll definitely grow with you and can be put on any board you end up buying.

This is senseless talk, but I thought it was just wrong to put burton bindings on a board that was made up of members that burton dropped from the team. Then again, I also believe in rally caps, and put on my hockey equipment one side at a time. Malavitas are rad bindings though.

I've never ridden Flux bindings so I have no comment, people like them though.
I really need to try and demo the unions and the Burtons somehow. Right now I'd say it's atlas vs. malavitas.

How'd you like the great dudes? I bought my great beauties in a sale during the off season and have yet to ride it. Looking forward to getting on it next month.
11-17-2012 02:40 AM
scotty100
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Originally Posted by bseracka View Post
One question you need to ask is: do I want canting? If you do than Burton is your choice.

Really all the bindings are good and will do what you want. You really can't go wrong. Look at your budget, (can't believe I'm saying this) look at the colorways and decide what you like. Don't over think it.
Good point. I've never experienced a binding with canting so not sure if it's a must have or not. Thanks.
11-16-2012 05:07 PM
phony_stark Nothing wrong with looking at colorways....I like my shit to be matchy.

Some of the best advice I learned about playing a musical instrument (guitar) was, get something that's cool to look at, so you'll wanna pick it up and play it.

I think the same thing can go for gear, since most gear will, for the most part, work for you.
11-16-2012 05:03 PM
bseracka One question you need to ask is: do I want canting? If you do than Burton is your choice.

Really all the bindings are good and will do what you want. You really can't go wrong. Look at your budget, (can't believe I'm saying this) look at the colorways and decide what you like. Don't over think it.
11-16-2012 03:27 PM
phony_stark
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Originally Posted by scotty100 View Post
Thanks for the info. I doubt I'll have the chance to demo so trying to figure out where each binding fits in the scheme of things flex-wise. I appreciate it's also down to personal preference and "feel" and difficult to pigeon hole as a result. But just a broad outline in terms of stiffness and flex across the range is helpful to get me looking in the right place to begin with.

For what it's worth I'll be riding a Yes Great Beauties board and the bindings I'm considering are:

Union - Contact Pro or Atlas
Burton - Cartel or Malavita
Flux - DMCC light

I think something forgiving (but not too forgiving) in terms of highback flex is what I'm after. I'm still fairly new to the sport and would probably benefit from med or med-soft binding as I look to develop my skills etc.
Atlas.

I had contact pros on my Great Dudes, and they worked fab, good lateral flex and still responsive straight back, but the Atlas is my favorite binding ever of any that I've tried from any line. It's soft enough or stiff enough to be put on anything. They'll definitely grow with you and can be put on any board you end up buying.

This is senseless talk, but I thought it was just wrong to put burton bindings on a board that was made up of members that burton dropped from the team. Then again, I also believe in rally caps, and put on my hockey equipment one side at a time. Malavitas are rad bindings though.

I've never ridden Flux bindings so I have no comment, people like them though.
11-16-2012 03:01 PM
scotty100
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Originally Posted by UNION INHOUSE View Post
Phony is correct here. It's all about personal preference.

The Contact & Contact Pro would be directed more towards freestyle/park/jumping/jibbing if you wanted to pigeon hole it. Gigi helped design it, and rips the hell out of Alaska on em. Dan Brisse jibs on Atlas' so there you go.

If you want an overall softer binding, go with the contact family. If you want more power and response, go Atlas family.

Thanks and Happy Friday!
Thanks for the info. I doubt I'll have the chance to demo so trying to figure out where each binding fits in the scheme of things flex-wise. I appreciate it's also down to personal preference and "feel" and difficult to pigeon hole as a result. But just a broad outline in terms of stiffness and flex across the range is helpful to get me looking in the right place to begin with.

For what it's worth I'll be riding a Yes Great Beauties board and the bindings I'm considering are:

Union - Contact Pro or Atlas
Burton - Cartel or Malavita
Flux - DMCC light

I think something forgiving (but not too forgiving) in terms of highback flex is what I'm after. I'm still fairly new to the sport and would probably benefit from med or med-soft binding as I look to develop my skills etc.
11-16-2012 11:05 AM
UNION INHOUSE
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Originally Posted by phony_stark View Post
Rode them both. Contact Pro, for me, was absolutely suitable for all mountain freestyle.

Contacts, for me, were not but if I were a park rat, would be the best binding ever.
Phony is correct here. It's all about personal preference.

The Contact & Contact Pro would be directed more towards freestyle/park/jumping/jibbing if you wanted to pigeon hole it. Gigi helped design it, and rips the hell out of Alaska on em. Dan Brisse jibs on Atlas' so there you go.

If you want an overall softer binding, go with the contact family. If you want more power and response, go Atlas family.

Thanks and Happy Friday!
11-16-2012 11:00 AM
UNION INHOUSE
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Originally Posted by Supra View Post
Do you seriously represent Union? That was the worst answer I've ever read! OP is asking for info about Unions and you tell him how Burton is #1 and how their bindings "were comfy and rode great". You really should hire Phony to replace you!
Uhmmm, okay?

-Burton is the world's #1 binding supplier.
-They make great products.

Not sure what your issue is with me saying that.
11-16-2012 12:02 AM
phony_stark
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Originally Posted by scotty100 View Post
Thanks man - good info. Have you ever ridden the contacts or contact pro? Are these suitable for all mountain freestyle or are they outright park?
Rode them both. Contact Pro, for me, was absolutely suitable for all mountain freestyle.

Contacts, for me, were not but if I were a park rat, would be the best binding ever.
11-15-2012 11:51 PM
Supra
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Originally Posted by UNION INHOUSE View Post
Are you talking about Re:Flex?

Trying to give you an exact comparison would just an educated guess. We don't tear apart competitors bindings, or even put them through the testing facility. We honestly just worry about Union and our progression.

I've ridden all 3 of these though and had a good time. Flex & overall feel was quite a bit different than Union. They were comfy and rode great. Just a different feel.

Burton makes incredible stuff. They're #1 for a reason. Snowboarding is lucky to have a good leader. Can you imagine if Atomic or something like that was #1?

Cheers!
Do you seriously represent Union? That was the worst answer I've ever read! OP is asking for info about Unions and you tell him how Burton is #1 and how their bindings "were comfy and rode great". You really should hire Phony to replace you!
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