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11-27-2012 03:05 PM
Powhound97 You should look online at the mountain bike knee pads that double as a special knee brace

They are $$$$$$$ but apparently they have helped a lot of people, it only allows your knee to pivot the proper way.

Look on www.Hucknroll.com
EDIT: hucknroll merged with competitive cyclists
Just type in hucknroll and go to competitive cycle hucknroll side of the website
11-27-2012 12:35 PM
SnowRock
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Bummer man, that sure sucks!!! I'm sure he told you this, but be carefull getting air born, especially with flat landings. I do know that you can ride with a blown out ACL and torn miniscus, I did it for a little over a month. Definitely try to get get an upgrade brace that will help out both the miniscus and ACL. If anything the Miniscus is the most worriesome part to damage further. They can't exactly replace those. I would probably look at a lot of swimming and low impact exercises like biking. Did he give you a list pre-hab exercises? I know that with my first knee surgery I did a month of pre-hab prior to the surgery to try and lessen the impact of immobility after the surgery.
Definite bummer. Yeah the meniscus is probably the biggest concern.. considering I have already had a trim once. Also probably the source of most of my pain as my knee actually feels pretty stable.

Good news was that arthritis did not appear bad in my knee (he expected worse) so i'll take that. I have a prehab worksheet from them and a buddy that is a PT. I have asked him to put together a routine for me. Will definitely try and keep up with biking.

Edit: Interestingly.. just reading up on things, it sounds like it is not that uncommon to not feel pain when you "re-tear" a graft since the nerves aren't really there, guess that could be why I never noticed anything outside my knee just not feeling right and the pain likely coming form my meniscus issue.

My MD was actually pretty funny.. before he told me the bad news, he said, let me ask you this, If I said we are heading to Whistler tomorrow, are you coming with me given how your knee feels? I said 100% in.. he just laughed.

Air to flat is definitely a no no for me.. thing is, I have a feeling I may have already put in 2 seasons with this because that has been an issue. Anything close to a flat landing and I was in pain. I can hit natural features, rollers, lips... but forget about steep angle take offs as well.

And I guess the other positive note is that it will be a cadaver replacement versus my original patella style.. so I won't have that trauma to deal with on top of the ligament repair.
11-27-2012 12:04 PM
gjsnowboarder
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Well.... we are getting a little bit of snow here in the northeast, especially in northwest jersey where my commute began this morning. So while that is great news, my meeting with my Ortho yesterday as a follow-up to my MRI was not so hot. He is 95% certain that my ACL is torn, or that my old graft is basically shot and just hanging on... oh and my meniscus is torn as well (which is what I expected).

Since there is no single event that happened which I can recall this re-tear of my ACL, he told me if I wanted to try and ride this winter and schedule the surgery for April to give it a shot. I was on a surf trip at the beginning of the month, just rode 15 miles on my mt bike Saturday so he thinks its about pain management and that if I feel something get noticeably worse, call it quits and head in for the surgery early.

Going to see if I can upgrade my brace (with some insurance $$) and going to get into a good routine with some ball/balance exercises and give the season a whirl.
Bummer man, that sure sucks!!! I'm sure he told you this, but be carefull getting air born, especially with flat landings. I do know that you can ride with a blown out ACL and torn miniscus, I did it for a little over a month. Definitely try to get get an upgrade brace that will help out both the miniscus and ACL. If anything the Miniscus is the most worriesome part to damage further. They can't exactly replace those. I would probably look at a lot of swimming and low impact exercises like biking. Did he give you a list pre-hab exercises? I know that with my first knee surgery I did a month of pre-hab prior to the surgery to try and lessen the impact of immobility after the surgery.
11-27-2012 10:45 AM
SnowRock Well.... we are getting a little bit of snow here in the northeast, especially in northwest jersey where my commute began this morning. So while that is great news, my meeting with my Ortho yesterday as a follow-up to my MRI was not so hot. He is 95% certain that my ACL is torn, or that my old graft is basically shot and just hanging on... oh and my meniscus is torn as well (which is what I expected).

Since there is no single event that happened which I can recall this re-tear of my ACL, he told me if I wanted to try and ride this winter and schedule the surgery for April to give it a shot. I was on a surf trip at the beginning of the month, just rode 15 miles on my mt bike Saturday so he thinks its about pain management and that if I feel something get noticeably worse, call it quits and head in for the surgery early.

Going to see if I can upgrade my brace (with some insurance $$) and going to get into a good routine with some ball/balance exercises and give the season a whirl.
11-23-2012 05:26 PM
MarshallV82 My Knees are thrashed due to Basketball and Construction work.. I do high reps with light weights, wall sits, and anything else I can do to improve my leg strength. It really seems to help!

I tore my ACL/MCL as well, I have a lot of discomfort when I leave the gym out my daily routine for months on end...
11-21-2012 01:33 PM
lonerider
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This thread is twofold, one for anyone who might have knee issues - why not create a thread for a common snowboard injury - and two -for myself.

The inside of my right knee is a little tender/sore. This is mostly me being paranoid, but do I have anything to worry about? The tenderness is on the inside - if you were to sit down, knees at 90 degree angles, and feel that "ball" of cartilage on the inside of you right knee...thats whats sore for me. It hurts if I press on it, especially lower towards the back of the knee. I can walk on it fine.

Within the last couple of months I started lifting hard, something which I have not done in many years. I'm athletic and so wasn't too worried about ramping up to a fairly intensive core/strength routine to get ready for the season. I started out the first couple weeks with lifting smaller weight, and got into REALLY pushing myself the last two weeks, up until now. I've also been hiking and playing soccer the last two weeks, mixed in with lifting (squats, lunges, jump-rope).

So, should I be worried? I'm guessing I should just rest it and chalk it up to a tendon strain, although I know the MCL is on the inside of the knee too.

Do any of you ride with a knee brace?

Thoughts/advice are appreciated. I'm banking on hitting the doctor for a physical sometime soon anyways, so maybe that will help?

Thanks.
You should worry about it... as I got older I started getting knee soreness like this... the next few years I had a bunch of knee injuries (ACL and both MCLs) and that was a warning sign... so I started learning a lot about biomechanics and physical therapy (I was there so often I start asking questions).

Turns out my quads were super tight and thick and too strong compared to my hamstrings. A tight quad and/or IT band will literally pull on your kneecap and cause it not to track properly in the groove of your knee.

You should get a foam roller (they are cheap at Walmart) and start rolling like this. I've even saw some pro riders using the foam roller in a one of those pre-ride timelapse skits in a snowboarding video (might have even been Travis Rice's Art of Flight...)



Also stretch out your quad... I found the resistance stretching technique, which was used by 42-year old Olympic swimmer Dara Torres to be really effective. I know this guy seems a bit... frou-frou, but trust me... this stretch really works better than the standard quad stretch

11-21-2012 01:14 PM
LuckyRVA Knee probs from soccer here as well. I'm a fairly active/athletic person and have all but stopped doing heavy squats. Now on leg days I do high rep squats using a bosu ball standing on the platform side. I normally hold a 30-40lb dumbell under my chin for 30 reps. For heavier weight I only do sumo front squats. For some reason front squats feel much better on my knees and the duck/sumo position of my feet when squating feels much more natural to me. I never load up more than 200lbs.
11-21-2012 12:08 PM
jml22 Go see a sports Chiro with a CCSP diplomate. There's a reason why these guys take a leading role at the Olympics, because they know their shit.
Everyone's advice is great and all but it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

First of all going balls to the wall training in something you haven't done for awhile or something new can and will always increase your chances of injury. So remember to always ease into things.

Giving advice without seeing the person in patient is near impossible. There are 10 more questions that someone would want to ask before they should even consider giving an opinion. First of all we don't even know his/her age. There's a big difference between someone 20 vs someone 50.

When you say inside of your knee, that could be like 5 different spots which all have different mechanisms of injury, and treatment plans. Keep in mind that one treatment plan will most likely aggravate the area more if it's not the right one.

Go see someone now before it gets worse, and dont take some half ass answer from some schmuck, be informed and investigate the doctor before you see them. MRIs are often warranted for knee problems.
Go see someone now.
11-21-2012 11:23 AM
breathingdust You definitely need to take some time out to rest it. Unfortunately knees are one of those things that take a long time to heal.

I just got over a case of Patellofemoral Pain Syndrome caused by running too much without training my supporting muscles.

It took about 3 weeks for the pain to go and that's with me doing as little as possible with my knee. No walks longer than 15 mins and lots of stretching and strengthening exercises.

A physiotherapist will help a lot, my Doctor just told me to stop running. My physio gave me more practical advice and a programme of exercises.
11-19-2012 06:07 AM
sleev-les You need to rest or you will not recover. I'd see a specialist. How often were you "pushing yourself" in the gym. What were your recovery times? Your knees take a lot of stress, especially when lifting. Soccer is also a big killer for knees. Not to say its the same issue, but the back of my knee used to hurt if i tried to squat low (mainly in the winter when it was cold). Sucked trying to strap into my board or get up from the ground. With a lot of stretching and correct leg workout at the gym and taking Orange Triad (good multi and joint sup) I haven't had the problem come back as its gotten colder again. I can prove that taking a joint sup helped, but more towards strengthening my legs correctly. Just because you beat your ass up at the gym, doesn't mean your body can handle it.. Go see a doc man, especially if your knee hasn't changed in a week with rest... Could be multiple things.
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