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11-17-2012 03:16 AM
snowklinger
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Originally Posted by KungMartin View Post
yeah man, this lonerider character is in way over his head.
11-16-2012 09:36 PM
protechjump
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Originally Posted by Wiredsport View Post
Hi Protech,

As always, the tip to tip length of a deck means very little in choosing the correct board.

There are many factors that do affect correct sizing. Stiffness a big one. Each board size in a given model is designed and reinforced for a specific weight range. This is done using varied core thickneses, and laminates. That in combination with effective edge play a large role in determining what size is correct for a given weight range. Rider height has no impact on what size a rider should use whatsoever.

I hope that helps.
Helps a lot. Thanks.
11-16-2012 09:35 PM
protechjump
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Originally Posted by lonerider View Post
I totally agree about matching a peroson with the board designs own suggestions, I personally would put him on a 152 (the shortest size they have) - but heck if he really is as good as he says he is (those Vancouver racers are no joke) and going really fast... the 160cm is going to be tough, but it is not going to be impossible for him to ride. Once you are at expert level... board lengths are most just suggestions (I doubt you would have recommended for me to ride a 178 cm board at 140 lbs either).

After the last few days, I'm tired of arguing with people when they don't want to listen. He is really that determined (or that stupid) I say let him do it. Either he's going to have a terrible time (and learn an important life lesson)... or he's going to be alright. Eitherway its going to be entertaining.
I like a challenge, I mean at this level snowboarding is gradually getting boring, considering I've been on every run In BC. If I'm really having trouble ill just put on a 30 pound backpack close to my center of gravity. I guess the difference of a few cm's is big or you guys are really emphasizing it. I know most of your intentions are good so I'll trust you. Lets not forget how light the custom x is. My current board is heavier than the 160 and my board is 148! Can I ask another question? I've recently broken my shin, 3 months ago, and the leg is weak. It's my lead foot. Does anyone know if I'm going to be worse than I used to be? Thanks for the help
11-16-2012 09:33 PM
Wiredsport
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Originally Posted by protechjump View Post
What I'm still not sure of us how 6cm, 2in makes this huge difference. I've heard of 5'11 people riding 168 boards and they don't have a problem.
Hi Protech,

As always, the tip to tip length of a deck means very little in choosing the correct board.

There are many factors that do affect correct sizing. Stiffness a big one. Each board size in a given model is designed and reinforced for a specific weight range. This is done using varied core thickneses, and laminates. That in combination with effective edge play a large role in determining what size is correct for a given weight range. Rider height has no impact on what size a rider should use whatsoever.

I hope that helps.
11-16-2012 09:24 PM
protechjump
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Originally Posted by Wiredsport View Post
Hi Lonerider,

I appreciate your comment. Consider, however, that Burton designed this board specifically for pros and top level riders and by their own suggestion they reate the 160 cm as 3 sizes too large for the OP (and that would be with the assumption that he is a pro level rider). That is coming directly from the manufacturer who designed this model. We are trying to help this user out.

This is not the right board for him.
What I'm still not sure of us how 6cm, 2in makes this huge difference. I've heard of 5'11 people riding 168 boards and they don't have a problem.
11-16-2012 08:39 PM
lonerider
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Originally Posted by Wiredsport View Post
Hi Lonerider,

I appreciate your comment. Consider, however, that Burton designed this board specifically for pros and top level riders and by their own suggestion they reate the 160 cm as 3 sizes too large for the OP (and that would be with the assumption that he is a pro level rider). That is coming directly from the manufacturer who designed this model. We are trying to help this user out.

This is not the right board for him.
I totally agree about matching a peroson with the board designs own suggestions, I personally would put him on a 152 (the shortest size they have) - but heck if he really is as good as he says he is (those Vancouver racers are no joke) and going really fast... the 160cm is going to be tough, but it is not going to be impossible for him to ride. Once you are at expert level... board lengths are most just suggestions (I doubt you would have recommended for me to ride a 178 cm board at 140 lbs either).

After the last few days, I'm tired of arguing with people when they don't want to listen. He is really that determined (or that stupid) I say let him do it. Either he's going to have a terrible time (and learn an important life lesson)... or he's going to be alright. Eitherway its going to be entertaining.
11-16-2012 08:38 PM
KungMartin yeah man, this lonerider character is in way over his head.
11-16-2012 08:28 PM
Wiredsport
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Originally Posted by lonerider View Post
In my opinion... you are getting negativity because most of the people on this forum can't actually carve a snowboard at speed very well ... and so they get really short boards to compensate for their lack of skill. They can't IMAGINE someone being better than them and being able to ride a snowboard 3-6 cm longer... that's crap
Hi Lonerider,

I appreciate your comment. Consider, however, that Burton designed this board specifically for pros and top level riders and by their own suggestion they reate the 160 cm as 3 sizes too large for the OP (and that would be with the assumption that he is a pro level rider). That is coming directly from the manufacturer who designed this model. We are trying to help this user out.

This is not the right board for him.
11-16-2012 08:27 PM
protechjump
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Originally Posted by lonerider View Post
What province... if it's BC or Quebec sure... go for the 160cm then.

Even Alberta maybe... but if something like Nova Scotia... I've met two racers from the Nova Scotia team ... well ok they were girls but still, they were not that great riders as I would have expected them to be.

If you ALREADY have it (and didn't pay full price for it... hopefully 50% off right?)... just ride it as I agree that unless you are like 5'4"... you will be gaining some weight the next few years (although I graduated high school 5'9" 125 lbs myself). If you paid full price, then I would definitely return it.

In my opinion... you are getting negativity because most of the people on this forum can't actually carve a snowboard at speed very well ... and so they get really short boards to compensate for their lack of skill. They can't IMAGINE someone being better than them and being able to ride a snowboard 3-6 cm longer... that's crap, but at the same time you need to be realistic about your own abilities. You must have some type of coach/advisor that snowboards, don't you?
Best response ever. So true. I'm from Vancouver. My coach doesn't know much about board so he said I should advise someone else. He's not a very good snowboarder but has a lot of experience in races. He has a k2 happy hour and a Prior board so that explains his lack of knowledge. Thank you for you god given generosity. (I'm an atheist so I guess evolution given lol) anyways, anyone else want to add something, that is actually good at snowboarding?
11-16-2012 08:17 PM
lonerider
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Originally Posted by protechjump View Post
Maybe this'll help you in assessing my skills. I'm also a cross racer and placed 2nd in provincials with that shit board. It was against all the schools in bc. At my age right now, I'm gaining 5lbs a month minimum. My technique is also 100%. I can't return it, but should I still sell it? I'm getting such a negative feeling towards my purchase.
What province... if it's BC or Quebec sure... go for the 160cm then.

Even Alberta maybe... but if something like Nova Scotia... I've met two racers from the Nova Scotia team ... well ok they were girls but still, they were not that great riders as I would have expected them to be.

If you ALREADY have it (and didn't pay full price for it... hopefully 50% off right?)... just ride it as I agree that unless you are like 5'4"... you will be gaining some weight the next few years (although I graduated high school 5'9" 125 lbs myself). If you paid full price, then I would definitely return it.

In my opinion... you are getting negativity because most of the people on this forum can't actually carve a snowboard at speed very well ... and so they get really short boards to compensate for their lack of skill. They can't IMAGINE someone being better than them and being able to ride a snowboard 3-6 cm longer... that's crap, but at the same time you need to be realistic about your own abilities. You must have some type of coach/advisor that snowboards, don't you?
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