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12-05-2012 03:34 PM
Vaughanabe13
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Originally Posted by rgunzalez View Post
Whoa... hahaha! Condescending? All I said was that it was my first time riding in the Midwest, never complained or belittled anything. Common sense got me that far.

I felt sorry for him and myself, my home is the Midwest. He seemed like a nice guy and I respected the hell out of him for "riding what he's got".
Sorry, I didn't mean you specifically, I was more referring to the guy in my example. There is an air of superiority among those people like, "I pity you for having to ride this mountain".
12-05-2012 02:26 PM
rgunzalez
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Originally Posted by Vaughanabe13 View Post
No need to feel sorry for him or be condescending. Not everyone can live near a killer mountain, so you make do and find fun where you can. Few things irritate me more than sitting on a lift with someone who is a first-timer at the hill and is used to skiing out west and then listening to them complain loudly about how awful the hill is and how they would kill themselves if they had to live here. So annoying.
Whoa... hahaha! Condescending? All I said was that it was my first time riding in the Midwest, never complained or belittled anything. Common sense got me that far.

I felt sorry for him and myself, my home is the Midwest. He seemed like a nice guy and I respected the hell out of him for "riding what he's got".
12-05-2012 02:17 PM
david_z
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Originally Posted by Vaughanabe13 View Post
No need to feel sorry for him or be condescending. Not everyone can live near a killer mountain, so you make do and find fun where you can. Few things irritate me more than sitting on a lift with someone who is a first-timer at the hill and is used to skiing out west and then listening to them complain loudly about how awful the hill is and how they would kill themselves if they had to live here. So annoying.
Ditto. If you hate it so much then stay the fuck home.

Kind of ironic, maybe, but I started skiing/riding as a kid, really really liked it but couldn't afford it, got super stoked when my folks took us to Tremblant and my dad took me to Killington back in 1996 and 1997, and then kinda got "spoiled" in the sense that I was one of those guys who just didn't want to ride locally any more. I would go out a few times a year maybe, through college (admittedly I had other priorities that probably should not have been priorities...) fast-forward after college and I re-discovered my love for snowboarding. After scrounging for a few years to take an annual trip out West i basically said fuck this is killing me and I'm barely getting any good opportunities to snowboard.

So I chose to "make due with what I have" and ride the shit out of these local hills.

Got boring as fuck, obviously. So at 30 I decided to start riding park for basically the first time ever.

That'll cure your boredom. It may not be rock drops and pow slashes, but I'll tell you what stomping that new trick for the first time feels damn good and I'd rather be riding an icy park than saving money for a once-a-year trip to some big mountain that I'm barely in good enough shape to ride anyways.

Cheers.
12-05-2012 01:11 PM
Vaughanabe13
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Originally Posted by rgunzalez View Post
I visited Wilmot for the first time last Saturday and that was my thought exactly. You can bomb down those runs in like 15 seconds, some of you guys could probably do it in less time than that. If it was my only snowboarding experience there is no way I would have become hooked like I did in WA. It was quite sad.

I was on the lift with another snowboarder who said he's just "riding what he's got", and I totally understand that, but I felt deeply sorry for him.
No need to feel sorry for him or be condescending. Not everyone can live near a killer mountain, so you make do and find fun where you can. Few things irritate me more than sitting on a lift with someone who is a first-timer at the hill and is used to skiing out west and then listening to them complain loudly about how awful the hill is and how they would kill themselves if they had to live here. So annoying.
12-05-2012 12:54 PM
Derp
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Originally Posted by rgunzalez View Post
I visited Wilmot for the first time last Saturday and that was my thought exactly. You can bomb down those runs in like 15 seconds, some of you guys could probably do it in less time than that. If it was my only snowboarding experience there is no way I would have become hooked like I did in WA. It was quite sad.

I was on the lift with another snowboarder who said he's just "riding what he's got", and I totally understand that, but I felt deeply sorry for him.
I guess that's why I see the Granite Peak parking lot packed with Illinois license plates on the weekends.
12-05-2012 12:36 PM
rgunzalez
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Originally Posted by budderbear View Post
I would quit snowboarding if I had to ride this place only.
I visited Wilmot for the first time last Saturday and that was my thought exactly. You can bomb down those runs in like 15 seconds, some of you guys could probably do it in less time than that. If it was my only snowboarding experience there is no way I would have become hooked like I did in WA. It was quite sad.

I was on the lift with another snowboarder who said he's just "riding what he's got", and I totally understand that, but I felt deeply sorry for him.
12-05-2012 12:32 PM
rgunzalez
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Originally Posted by oneshot View Post
I can't confirm those season pass prices or deny it, although i want to strongly deny that, but my memory is faded. back then day lift tickets were so cheap.. I worked there in 1990.. what i can confirm through the 80's and leading into the 90's is $10 mon-tues and $15 wed-thur-friday day tickets at many WA. resorts or something very close to this.. I doubt shitty pass ever came close to 1k for season passes, ever.. I can confirm a Mt baker season pass for $500 in 1995 which was one of the 1st season passes I had bought...

after some digging..
what i did find was North Cascade Heli $325 for a day in 1990.. which is now $985 for a day

1990 Wa. breakdown
Sports | Washington Ski Areas | Seattle Times Newspaper
Very interesting, thanks for the info. That seems more realistic, as prices usually rise as opposed to getting slashed as described.
12-04-2012 06:47 PM
oneshot
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Originally Posted by killclimbz View Post
You are showing how little time you have been in this game. In the 90's a season pass at Snoq's would have cost you nearly $1k. All Western ski areas were at this higher rate. Once again, thank Winterpark for launching the pass war prices and bringing down the season pass rates all over the US.

Comparatively, Mid West areas were a bargain back in the day. Western areas have a lot of advantages over their mid west and east coast counter parts. I would imagine that offering a much cheaper pass would likely mean that your little area would have to stop spinning the wheels. It sucks, but those are just some of the realities with it. Running a ski area ain't cheap, that's for sure.

I can't confirm those season pass prices or deny it, although i want to strongly deny that, but my memory is faded. back then day lift tickets were so cheap.. I worked there in 1990.. what i can confirm through the 80's and leading into the 90's is $10 mon-tues and $15 wed-thur-friday day tickets at many WA. resorts or something very close to this.. I doubt shitty pass ever came close to 1k for season passes, ever.. I can confirm a Mt baker season pass for $500 in 1995 which was one of the 1st season passes I had bought...

after some digging..
what i did find was North Cascade Heli $325 for a day in 1990.. which is now $985 for a day

1990 Wa. breakdown
Sports | Washington Ski Areas | Seattle Times Newspaper
12-04-2012 04:43 PM
budderbear I would quit snowboarding if I had to ride this place only.


On that note, I feel SUPER fortunate to only pay $429 with pass insurance for access to arapahoe basin, keystone, and breckenridge(99% of the time), and just as fortunate to get a loveland pass for $269. If I lived in park city,ut I wouldn't be able to afford a pass for 1 resort let alone 4.
12-04-2012 04:33 PM
C.B.
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Originally Posted by Lamps View Post
It's all about the demand, the smallest scale hill in the east will charge a lot if they're close to a population center.
This. I pay 230 total to ride at two of the three best resorts in Minnesota (some of the best hills in the midwest for that matter)

But we're 3 hours from a major population center which is why it's affordable.
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