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11-23-2012 02:03 PM
Slush Puppie Hey, I've been charging pretty hard on an Evo up until now and that feels fine until it gets fairly lumpy. Keeping up with more experienced riders on stiff cambered boards anyhoo. Frozen slush mounds get to be a little taxing.

While I'm sure boards stiffer than the SL are 'best' for it, especially if thats all you do. But I don't think its that a 'must have' requirement?

Hope so anyway, my SL arrived in the post today

Really comes down to either making the best tradeoff, or else having the perfect board (to hand) for every situation. Oh and rider preference!
11-23-2012 02:42 AM
ShredLife I guess my real point is that the sl is closer to the proto. For me the sl IS a park board, and a little too floppy at real speed for 'all mt' riding which fo sho means charging down the fall line.
11-23-2012 02:36 AM
hktrdr
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I own an sl and heritage in 155 and have rode the proto. The proto isn't really softer than the sl in practice - just far less damp.
Agree. But dampness is part of 'going up' the scale.

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The heritage, while stiffer than the sl is fine for park. It's not any good for presses but its better on jumps.
Mostly true, but most people would consider the SL to be the better park board. It might lose out a bit to the Heritage in the jump line, but is way better for jibbing.

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The heritage is a better 'all mt' board for me because it charges way harder than the sl. Way better for busting thru and over chop.
Most people would call that big mountain/freeriding. All-mountain includes that, as well as park, etc.
I prefer Heritage as well, but the SL is clearly more of an all-mountain board. On balance, the disadvantage the SL has in charging is smaller than the advantage it has in the park.
11-23-2012 02:24 AM
ShredLife I own an sl and heritage in 155 and have rode the proto. The proto isn't really softer than the sl in practice - just far less damp.
The heritage, while stiffer than the sl is fine for park. It's not any good for presses but its better on jumps.
The heritage is a better 'all mt' board for me because it charges way harder than the sl. Way better for busting thru and over chop.
11-23-2012 02:14 AM
hktrdr
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How is the heritage not an all mt board? Sl is one step above their softest park board and the f1, raptor, and summit are all more true freeriding/alpine boards than the heritage...
How many people would regularly take a Heritage to the park? Not many - or not nearly as many as would take an SL freeriding. Hence, SL is more of an all-mountain board than the Heritage. Now, I would still consider the Heritage pretty much an all-mountain board, but certainly less so than the SL.

Incidentally, FWIW NS only labels the Cobra, SL/Legacy, and Proto as all-mountain.

BTW, SL is 2 steps above the softest park board (Proto is 1 step up).
11-23-2012 01:32 AM
ShredLife How is the heritage not an all mt board? Sl is one step above their softest park board and the f1, raptor, and summit are all more true freeriding/alpine boards than the heritage...
11-23-2012 01:21 AM
hktrdr
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I don't know how accurate this is but the guy at the shop I bought my Proto at said the Cobra is to the Proto as the Heritage is to the SL.... More like an all-mountain version of the Proto?
Except for the fact that the Heritage is not more of an all-mountain stick than the SL. In fact, the SL is probably the most all-mountain board that NS has.
11-23-2012 12:04 AM
Cormier I don't know how accurate this is but the guy at the shop I bought my Proto at said the Cobra is to the Proto as the Heritage is to the SL.... More like an all-mountain version of the Proto?
11-22-2012 06:15 PM
lonerider
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I know its bad of me..

anyway, explain the cobra to me neversummer's site shows it as more of an all mountain board...wouldnt I want the heritage before the cobra?
Ok, so I have only ridden the Evo, Proto, and SL. I'm am told by the people at Never Summer (I called/emailed them) them that the Cobra is almost the same stiffness as the SL (slightly stiffer between the binding... which is good because I felt my SL was just a tiny bit too soft between the bindings for freeriding). The Cobra also has a different shaped nose/tail (more directional) to give it better float in powder, better performance through chunky snow than a directional twin like the SL.

The Heritage I'm is stiffer than the SL (based on the charts on their website), and much more damp than the SL.... but generally the same shape. I wonder if you are ready to handle the stiffer flex.

Since you only ride 25% park, that's why I think the Cobra would work for you as you aren't riding switch that much (less than 50% of the time) and the Cobra will be more playful.

It's really about matching what you like to do and your abilities with what each board is designed to do.
11-22-2012 04:10 PM
Slush Puppie Um, nothing wrong with buying something you like the look of! Just don't compromise elsewhere to do it.

For the riding you describe Proto or SL do seem like the best choices.

The heritage is going to be quite stiff if you're in the park 25% of the time. The Cobra is(I think) not quite as stiff as the Heritage but has some directional shaping which gives it more forwards float in pow at the slight expense of switch capability.

What's you're reason for needing the 'carbonium'? On this years proto is just looks like carbon weave embossed plastic. Might save a tiny bit of weight, other than that you wouldn't miss it.
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