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12-16-2012 05:25 PM
AIRider
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Originally Posted by StreetDoc View Post
basically exactly what we did but they weren't very happy. Where was this at?
Whistler.

But I could see all the pow, it was beautiful. I think it was off limits due to poor coverage.. But if you weren't a dumbass you could see the uncovered rocks, etc.
12-15-2012 01:54 PM
StreetDoc
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Originally Posted by AIRider View Post
I ducked the ropes a few times, but they were right under the chairlift. Lol.

Ski patrol laughed and said ride at your own risk.
basically exactly what we did but they weren't very happy. Where was this at?
12-15-2012 01:22 PM
AIRider I ducked the ropes a few times, but they were right under the chairlift. Lol.

Ski patrol laughed and said ride at your own risk.
12-15-2012 11:37 AM
StreetDoc
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Originally Posted by chomps1211 View Post
...and as it relates to what the patrol said about riding where these guys were, I presume "deadfall's" refers to submarining the nose of your snowboard under a fallen log while the rest of you goes "Over?" Essentially,.. cutting you off at the knees??
yes which is why I said I felt it was impossible are at least highly unprobable.... I've been riding for 15 years lol... come on. Of course there are going to be the posters that believe "YERRRR GONNNA DIE!" for riding 5' the other side of a rope but whatever. I'm an adult and if that's the choice I want to make I will be paying the consequence. I would gladly sign a waiver stating don't come and find me if I submarine myself under a dead tree and am not able to self rescue if it meant I could duck ropes without consequence. I have a little avalanche training, but not enough yet... it's coming though. I don't ride the back country. In the past when I have ducked ropes I'd say I'm always within 20' of it (including this occassion.)
12-15-2012 10:55 AM
ShredLife
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Originally Posted by slyder View Post
so now I am confused is this like cross country skiing to get up the hill. I must add never goggled to see what split boarding is about I know it's your snowboard cut in half that is about it, not to get off topic.
Similar to using snow shoes but this would eliminate more gear is my guess.
dude. do a youtube search.
12-15-2012 10:49 AM
slyder
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Slyder - Skinning is using skins on either the bottom of your skis or splitboard to travel uphilll to prevent you from sliding back.
so now I am confused is this like cross country skiing to get up the hill. I must add never goggled to see what split boarding is about I know it's your snowboard cut in half that is about it, not to get off topic.
Similar to using snow shoes but this would eliminate more gear is my guess.
12-15-2012 09:56 AM
chomps1211
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okay so my google-fu is failing. What is deadfalling? Is it the same as getting caught in a tree well?
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Originally Posted by AWNOW View Post
deadfall are trees that are dead and have fallen to the ground.
...and as it relates to what the patrol said about riding where these guys were, I presume "deadfall's" refers to submarining the nose of your snowboard under a fallen log while the rest of you goes "Over?" Essentially,.. cutting you off at the knees??
12-15-2012 09:48 AM
snowvols Slyder - Skinning is using skins on either the bottom of your skis or splitboard to travel uphilll to prevent you from sliding back.

OP - This is dumb and should be a nonissue. Stay alive. I know your guys pack should pretty much be facets on the ground. Don't die and ride within the boundaries if you don't know whats up.
12-15-2012 09:21 AM
StreetDoc
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Originally Posted by Snowolf View Post
Regarding policies about skinning in a resort. It all depends upon the nature of the negotiated lease with the forest service and as Shredlife and I discovered talking to a patroller where we ride, the country that the resort and national forest area is in.

At Meadows, they do not allow ANY uphill travel AT ALL regardless if open or not as long as the resort is operating for the season because of grooming, avy control and other equipment operations. Off season, it reverts to standard national forest policy. In addition, if you skin up above Meadows to shred Wy East Face on Mt. Hood, you also cannot re enter and ride in the resort on the way down. You must stay out of the resort entirely.

Now, Timberline a few miles away, also on Mt. Hood National Forest, does allow uphill travel even when operating and has established climbing routes. You are also allowed to ride lifts and exit anywhere (no official gates) and can re enter the resort after a climb up on Hood. The only they ask is that riders stay on the off piste terrain after hours and grooming because they conduct a lot of race camps and don`t want the fresh corduroy carved up and then have it freeze with ruts in it (got bitched at for this when I did`nt know...never done it again and had cat drivers thank me)

The difference in policies according the patroller we talked to has to do with the fact that two resorts are in different counties. Meadows is in Hood River County and their RCW code is different that Clackamas county where Timberline is.

So as you can see the policies can vary greatly between resorts and it all has to do with how their special use permit and lease is worded.

Also, it is erroneous to assume that just because someone is skinning in the back country that they know what they are doing. Sadly, I see way more dumbfucks out there without a fucking clue than I do trained people.
Thanks, I guess I need to talk to the people at Copper and Winter Park. I plan on doing a decent amount of this after my Avy class
12-15-2012 08:50 AM
slyder
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deadfall are trees that are dead and have fallen to the ground.
I figured this one out but "Skin up a hill or Skinning" as Snowolf mentioned. This refers to walking or hiking up the hill I'm guessing??

I learn a lot just reading stuff like this. Midwest bunny hills compared to your mountains I would never run into this. But I am wanting to take a trip with my boys at sometime so this is all knowledge shoved into the brain reserves.
I guarantee we are just groom, maybe, tree riders. Still good reads...
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