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02-01-2013 11:44 PM
The base bevel determines how quickly your skis will "hook up" and turn. With a shallower bevel like the .5 degree your skis will tend to be more grabby and as you tilt your ski up on edge it will initiate the turn immediately. Compared to a deeper Bevel like the 2 degree which will take longer to "hook up", and require the ski to be tilted further onto the edge to initiate the turn.

Base Edge Beveling
01-28-2013 08:23 AM
that1guy I think that is what poutine was trying to say. I know well of this velcro snow. We get it a lot is Washington. Especially during the Junuary month.
01-28-2013 12:27 AM
Originally Posted by poutanen View Post
Uhhh, what? No comprende!
The right wax for the right temperature. The only times I have to deal with the sticky stuff was when it was too warm and the snow was melting at the bottom of the runs creating pools of water. when I'd hit those flat I could feel the suction effect and speed brakes.
01-26-2013 12:53 PM
Originally Posted by edlo View Post
It is a snow board not a surfboard. You still snow for the wax to work otherwise you are in a pond skim.
Uhhh, what? No comprende!
01-26-2013 11:06 AM
Originally Posted by Snowolf View Post
Interesting about the loose bindings. I myself have noticed that I like my binding straps to allow a little bit of give. When I overtighten a binding strap I feel a huge change in the way my board as a whole feels and within 20 feet, I stop and back it off a notch.
I typically ride with my bindings a little loose too. I don't feel any loss and It feels better to me. I think it's mostly mental though, feels more playful or something..
01-26-2013 10:35 AM
Originally Posted by poutanen View Post
I could barely feel the glue. Put the base down and it was like the drag chutes were deployed!!!
It is a snow board not a surfboard. You still snow for the wax to work otherwise you are in a pond skim.
01-26-2013 10:00 AM
Originally Posted by Snowolf View Post
Yep exactly! my boot isnt able to move around in the binding but the ankle strap allows for a little more flex, giving the board a "looser" feeling which I like.
I think that's what my Flow binding feels like
01-26-2013 06:20 AM
bordsmnj wow, there's a lot going on in this thread. lots of valid points if they are taken further and put into context. i think a lot has to do with what you consider "going fast". at my local little hill (bear mountain/snow summit) conditions change vastly on a typical "so cal" day. in the morning you ice skating and in the late afternoon your water skiing. i view being on edge as a defensive technique. i've used it. good tool to have. staying flat at really high speeds is used in attacking. even riding flat when your really flying down hard pack your not very much in contact with the surface. the faster i go the tighter and more responsive i want my bindings. also tense leg muscles, weight foreward. drive through it. no staying loose about it. pick your lines and totally commit. by commiting you can change your line if need be just follow your eyes. are you in control? i'll you have to do is ask your self "would i be able to stop right now?" any way i like this thread because it made me put some thought into something i am passionate about. lots i disagree with here too but... no big deal. i think that beveled edges and all curved surfaces at the rear of the board are about controlled release not lift. but then surface conditions come into play, blah blah blah. have FUN!
01-26-2013 02:40 AM
Originally Posted by Snowolf View Post
This is not exactly true. You are only "washing speed off" if you are skidding. Being on edge does not equate to skidding and in many snow conditions, carving on edge is actually faster than riding with the base flat......
+1, I can confirm this theory after riding velcro on Wednesday. Got to the bottom of Cypress and it was sticky snow, did little carves at the bottom and I could barely feel the glue. Put the base down and it was like the drag chutes were deployed!!!

For what it's worth, my board builder setup my edges at 0.5 deg base, 2 deg side bevel. He does this to all his boards including race, alpine and BX boards. Lonerider said it engaged to early for his liking, I personally love the way it grabs HARD. It's very dramatic and once used to it there's no second guessing.
01-25-2013 04:24 PM
Originally Posted by trapper View Post
My question about this is how would you keep your binding loose without having the toe strap slip off? I have to tighten the hell out of mine to keep my cap strap on, and until I initially reconfigured the strap setup I was having major problems with them slipping off halfway down the hill. Not a problem now, but like I said I have to tighten them pretty well.

I think I would be more comfortable riding if they were a little looser, but I'd have to get around this issue first.
I think it was all in the ankle strap. His foot wasn't slipping forward, but he could lift his heel a lil bit out of the binding when strapped in.
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