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06-29-2013 12:34 AM
Juzzs8
Canter?

Hey, just wondering what the canter is? I tried to order Blackhawks last year but could only get phantoms. So ended with phantoms. My girlfriend just got Blackhawks today, and I can't seem to see a real big difference in them apart from the air bags on the phantoms. I have really bad knees and by sound of it Canter could be a good thing!

Cheers!
01-10-2013 01:12 AM
bpow Thanks for all the help guys. Went and ordered the blackawks. Still keen to hear how they go in the park? But either way will try post my own review when i can. Yew!!
01-09-2013 11:02 AM
Triple8Sol Note to Raiden & Flux: Add Canting to all but your sub $200 models next year. Get on it!
01-08-2013 10:32 PM
bpow
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Originally Posted by Nivek View Post
Nope, Company would land between the Machine and Blackhawk.
So sounds like the blackhawks would be better for doing a few park laps when im keen.
01-08-2013 10:16 PM
Nivek
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Originally Posted by bpow View Post
Hey Nivek. Just checking are you saying the company and the blackhawks will be around the same stiffness? Thanks
Nope, Company would land between the Machine and Blackhawk.
01-08-2013 10:07 PM
cjcameron11
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Originally Posted by bpow View Post
Yeah if the phantoms were canted i would jump strait on them. The airbags sound great but are they as durable as the eva padding? Leaning towards the blackhawks at the moment as i want to try canted bindings. How will the blackhawks go in the park. I love pipe and kickers but have also started having fun on the easy boxes.
Thanks all!
Yeah thats actually the only thing i don't like about my Phantoms, i wish they were canted like my Targas. They are however an awesome binding and although i don't have a huge amount of days on them i cant see the airbags being unreliable. I weigh 265lbs and they seem to support my weight just fine.

Honestly couldn't comment on the blackhawks in the park, sorry.
01-08-2013 09:57 PM
bpow
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Originally Posted by Nivek View Post
Blackhawks are definitely stiffer than Phantoms, not a ton, but stiffer. And the Company is the stiffest in the K2 line. In between the Phantom and Machine.
Hey Nivek. Just checking are you saying the company and the blackhawks will be around the same stiffness? Thanks
01-08-2013 08:42 PM
bpow Yeah if the phantoms were canted i would jump strait on them. The airbags sound great but are they as durable as the eva padding? Leaning towards the blackhawks at the moment as i want to try canted bindings. How will the blackhawks go in the park. I love pipe and kickers but have also started having fun on the easy boxes.
Thanks all!
01-08-2013 06:33 PM
cjcameron11 I haven't ridden the blackhawks but i have owned the boss's and own the phantoms now and i can't believe the 390's are stiffer than the blackhawks. To me the 390's are waaaaay softer than the phantoms, like a shit load softer. I switched the 390's after 2 days for the targas (which are similar to phantoms but a tad stiffer).
01-08-2013 04:39 PM
jdang307 That totally trips me out, as bsercka post says softer while the quote says stiffer (yes I know it was edited).

Blackhawks are considered a stiffer binding but I found them softer than the 390 boss. That's just my own experience.

I'm still shocked at how stiff/responsive the 390 Bosses are. The blackhawks are nice. Canting, comfortable and not terribly stiff. I paired it up with a Coda.

I wish it had airbags because I really want to try them out but the Blackhawks were a good binding. Great ratchets too. My favorite so far.
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