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01-11-2013 10:57 PM
poutanen
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Originally Posted by jennifer View Post
Thank you. I set them to -6 and +15 for my day tomorrow. The only concern I have now is my highbacks. I have the ladies union flite bindings and the highback is pretty flexible (which I actually like). The question is do I need to turn my highbacks parallel to the board so I am hitting them at the right angle on heelside turns? Or do you think they are ok as is considering that I didnt set them at some crazy aggressive angle?

I must also say that I am pretty pleased that I remounted my bindings myself. My husband has done it all for me until now. But I did it myself tonight.
Awesome! Highbacks should be fine, I usually try to turn mine close to parallel but it's really not going to make a big difference. If you find that you like the stance then I'd go to the trouble of rotating them after...

Good show on adjusting yourself! Word of wisdom here, check the screws after a couple runs tomorrow. I mounted bindings about 9 days ago on my new board, using the same technique I've done for years, and one of the screws had worked itself loose. Only a half turn or so but if I hadn't checked it it could have become a problem! Even if you leave them in that stance for the life of the board, check your screws a couple times a season at least.

Have fun!
01-11-2013 10:50 PM
jennifer
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Originally Posted by poutanen View Post
LOL no worries as long as you didn't hurt something then no harm was done!

A good compromise between a full on symmetrical duck stance, and a forward stance would be something like -6 or your back foot, and +15 on your front. That stance should be great for the first year or so and then start adjusting from there. If you spend too much time adjusting stance while you're learning you may have trouble learning the basics.

Have fun!
Thank you. I set them to -6 and +15 for my day tomorrow. The only concern I have now is my highbacks. I have the ladies union flite bindings and the highback is pretty flexible (which I actually like). The question is do I need to turn my highbacks parallel to the board so I am hitting them at the right angle on heelside turns? Or do you think they are ok as is considering that I didnt set them at some crazy aggressive angle?

I must also say that I am pretty pleased that I remounted my bindings myself. My husband has done it all for me until now. But I did it myself tonight.
01-11-2013 01:46 PM
poutanen
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Originally Posted by jennifer View Post
Well, this thread has made me feel a little silly. My bindings are set perfectly straight. I guess that would be 0? Both of them. On my first day out I had back leg at 0 and front leg at some crazy ass angle. My husband set it up for me. Then I figured that I would start at 0 with both and start adjusting from there. lol Think maybe this is why my last lesson went soooooo wrong? Oops.
LOL no worries as long as you didn't hurt something then no harm was done!

A good compromise between a full on symmetrical duck stance, and a forward stance would be something like -6 or your back foot, and +15 on your front. That stance should be great for the first year or so and then start adjusting from there. If you spend too much time adjusting stance while you're learning you may have trouble learning the basics.

Have fun!
01-11-2013 01:35 PM
EatRideSleep
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Originally Posted by jennifer View Post
Well, this thread has made me feel a little silly. My bindings are set perfectly straight. I guess that would be 0? Both of them. On my first day out I had back leg at 0 and front leg at some crazy ass angle. My husband set it up for me. Then I figured that I would start at 0 with both and start adjusting from there. lol Think maybe this is why my last lesson went soooooo wrong? Oops.

Clearly I have no clue what I am doing. Kind of wishing the instructors would go over at least a little bit about what angle to stand at. My very first lesson the instructor asked me if I rode regular or goofy....as if I had a clue.
That could be why your last lesson was the worst of them.

Not a bad idea in theory to set them up at 0 and adjust from there. But in reality, starting at 0 with both would be tough. Especially in lessons.

Now I don't know if any of these dry land ways to determine stance angles are solid guidelines or exact science but I've seen them mentioned here before. A couple I remember are:

-Jump up from standing, or down from something a couple feet off the ground, and see where your feet are naturally when you land.

-As mentioned above, do a comfortable squat and see where that puts your feet.

One that I've done is walk around normally and relaxed then stop without really thinking about it. Look down at your feet.

Those might give you a better idea of where to start. Of course, you may have to tweak the angles a bit to get a lock on what feels right for you when riding in your stance width.

Good luck!
01-11-2013 12:44 PM
southy
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Originally Posted by poutanen View Post
Yeah some of the guys on another forum I'm on are trying to tell me I need to be riding with a forward stance otherwise I'll be a terrible carver! I'm heading out riding with them tomorrow and they're all going to be on alpine boards, so I'm hoping to show them that it is physically possible to carve well with a duck stance... or I may be humbled, we'll see...
I rode +24 / +9 for years and tried duck for the first time last season. After a 1-run relearning curve, I linked more perfectly carved turns in the next run than I had all season. It's a personal thing for sure, but I would wholeheartedly disagree with anyone saying you can't carve with a duck stance. It seems to fit my bow-leggedness just fine.
01-11-2013 12:24 PM
jennifer Well, this thread has made me feel a little silly. My bindings are set perfectly straight. I guess that would be 0? Both of them. On my first day out I had back leg at 0 and front leg at some crazy ass angle. My husband set it up for me. Then I figured that I would start at 0 with both and start adjusting from there. lol Think maybe this is why my last lesson went soooooo wrong? Oops.

Clearly I have no clue what I am doing. Kind of wishing the instructors would go over at least a little bit about what angle to stand at. My very first lesson the instructor asked me if I rode regular or goofy....as if I had a clue.
01-11-2013 10:54 AM
poutanen
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Originally Posted by Lamps View Post
Nothing like that 0 degree angle for a little switch riding, eh?

I started +3/+18, every season I get a little closer to duck
Yeah some of the guys on another forum I'm on are trying to tell me I need to be riding with a forward stance otherwise I'll be a terrible carver! I'm heading out riding with them tomorrow and they're all going to be on alpine boards, so I'm hoping to show them that it is physically possible to carve well with a duck stance... or I may be humbled, we'll see...
01-11-2013 10:34 AM
Lamps
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Originally Posted by poutanen View Post
Yeah sounds like you've got a directional board. You actually want a bit of setback (the nose is longer than the tail) when you're riding forward most of the time...

For stance angles there's many schools of thought. In general I think a DIFFERENCE of 18-27 degrees is a good starting point. So wanting to go to 18/-6 would put you right on the money at 24 degrees. I ride a -12/+12 but used to ride -9/+9... Back in the day I rode 0/+18 but it seems that nobody rides with a 0 deg back binding anymore! lol
Nothing like that 0 degree angle for a little switch riding, eh?

I started +3/+18, every season I get a little closer to duck
01-11-2013 10:21 AM
poutanen Yeah sounds like you've got a directional board. You actually want a bit of setback (the nose is longer than the tail) when you're riding forward most of the time...

For stance angles there's many schools of thought. In general I think a DIFFERENCE of 18-27 degrees is a good starting point. So wanting to go to 18/-6 would put you right on the money at 24 degrees. I ride a -12/+12 but used to ride -9/+9... Back in the day I rode 0/+18 but it seems that nobody rides with a 0 deg back binding anymore! lol
01-11-2013 03:30 AM
jojotherider yeah just move the bindings in closer together. I'd move both in rather than just try to move one binding or the other. Also, if you look at the mounting disks, you'll see that there are different holes you can mount in. So you don't have to jump to the next hole in the board, you can try mounting in the next hole in the binding. Just make adjustments until something is comfortable for you. One thing I did last year was jump down from 3 steps landing evenly on both feet. I figured the width of my feet landing would be a good starting point for mounting my bindings. I ended up going a little wider, but not much.

As far as binding angle, I think that's all just personal preference and body mechanics. I ride with my bindings set at 6/-6. I feel like this lets me get good pressure on the edges. Also, I've tried other angles and they just make my knees hurt. My friends think my angles are too tight and they ride at 12/-9 or 9/-9. Its really just works for you.

Honestly the best thing for you to do is just find a good starting point and carry a multi-tool with you the next time you go ride. Take some runs and make the adjustments you think you need.

Once you figure out what works for you, measure the distance (i like to go measure from the center of the binding) and note the angles. I can tell you off the top of my head that my bindings stance is 23 1/2" wide at 6/-6. I use this same stance on all of my boards, pow/park/all mountain. Its just the stance that works for me.
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