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02-28-2013 11:18 PM
dubstatic looks like if I go reflex(rocking triads now) I will have to go with a medium too. I run a 10.5 thirtytwo lashed and have always ran large burton bindings. to center the boot I always have to push the binding toward the toe side to get them to center. My heal hangs a tad bit out further but I never noticed a difference.
02-28-2013 07:49 PM
Originally Posted by Sick-Pow View Post
Buy aftermarket ultra cap straps in large or have Burton send you some.
Burton already sent me some.

Just saying if you fall in between the size ranges you may have issues so check it out before you buy and try them on in a shop.
02-28-2013 07:38 PM
Sick-Pow why not Buy aftermarket ultra cap straps in large or have Burton send you some?

My bindings are all frankenstoked. I use women's large, because after EST came out, Mediums do not fit my boot ( the EST trays got larger).

Medium 08 cartels with straps off 2011 EST CO2 ankle straps, ultra straps ( the rubber caps)

Womens Large Lexa 2012, with straps 2011 EST CO2 ankle and ultra cap straps in medium
02-28-2013 09:00 AM
Originally Posted by East§ide View Post
weird..i have 10.5 Libertines with L Restricted Cartels with 0 problem centering the bindings at all and 0 fit issues.
That's because they probably have a longer outsole profile than Dreampow's 11's with shrink tech. It seems like Dreampow's boots just fall into that particular range where the large just can't accomodate.
02-27-2013 11:10 AM
East§ide weird..i have 10.5 Libertines with L Restricted Cartels with 0 problem centering the bindings at all and 0 fit issues.
02-26-2013 08:25 PM
dreampow On my first run out with the medium bindings I ran into a small issue.

Now I am centered, but the medium toe straps pinch my little toes in the boots(size 11 29cm). The medium toe straps just do not fit, to the point where it was painful to ride. Fortunately Burton have been really cool and I now have some extra L size toe caps.

Just be aware at size 11 with reduced footprint there are sizing issues. Either you get centered with mediums or the toe caps are too small.

Always check and try on thoroughly before you buy.

I am really liking the bindings though. Super playful with enough response to do some serious riding.
02-12-2013 07:07 PM
dreampow Just to update this thread I managed to exchange for mediums.

My size 11 rulers are snug, but fit well.

If you run a size 11 with reduced footprint you will NEED MEDIUMS for most boots. Definitely check before you buy.

This is because the new reflex bindings don't allow for as much centering adjustment as the older non reflex binding disks.

My size 11s fit the straps just fine on the large, but I cannot center them on my proto CT.

Burton Japan totally helped me out with this and big props to their customer service.

I would personally like to see them go a step further and make a little note in their size chart about reduced footprint sizing.

Several people PM'd me with the same problem and they were previous (non reflex) burton binding owners.

Seems people don't worry (including me) about the fit, they assume the adjustments will be the same when buying the same brand binding for use on the same board with the same boots.

While this is a mistaken assumption its an easy one and obviously a fairly common mistake. Maybe a little note on the binding chart would be a good idea?
01-15-2013 10:09 PM
BurtonBindings we actually can't make a re:flex disc with more toe/heel adjustment due to the material thickness to support the screw without peeling through the disc due to the inner ring or "claw" on the Re:Flex disc. The only reason for the "clawed" inner ring is a stop-gate so someone doesn't try to put the wrong disc in the wrong baseplate.

So our sizing chart is very general, shrinkage vs not shrinkage, vs. other brands; etc, we needed to be able to say sizes and not brands or even models. A lot of times, riders have no idea what shrinkage tech is let alone what model boot they riding. So I don't think it's a misleading size chart, i just think it's very general.

Honestly, you really should be in a size medium. In fact, Mikkel just switched over to Medium in a US size 11 Ion and Imperial.
01-15-2013 07:05 PM
Originally Posted by snowklinger View Post
GL with the mediums, but perhaps you would do well with a different set of discs.

Its not the best picture but you can see I have the adjustment holes parallel to the reflex bend. It allows for some centering adjustment just not enough, I need 1 more hole that isn't there. It is there on the 2011s which allow for further adjustment.

To Burton do you have any reflex disks available that will allow more front/ back adjustment?

That would be my preferred solution.
01-15-2013 06:35 PM
snowklinger I have '12 Vitas wearing 9's (fairly high profile '09 32 Lashed) on Mediums.

To your original post even though you already have Burton's help, I will agree with your difficulties just so you realize you are in company here. I really like these bindings, but between the solid plastic design (which I love but makes the heel loop not move) and the reflex in the disc, there really is hardly any way to make this adjustment.

To their credit I spent some time on the phone with Burton (none on hold) and they sent me out a bag with like 8 discs for me to try(indeed one of those sets did work better, basically you have ones where the holes are parallel to the reflex bend, or perpendicular to it).

GL with the mediums, but perhaps you would do well with a different set of discs.
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