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01-21-2013 09:43 PM
hktrdr
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Originally Posted by grafta View Post
So TC is traditional camber right?
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Originally Posted by mastershake View Post
this is one thing i understand from the different type of boards

TC - better edge hold (ice and otherwise) but less forgiving and more catch
RC - worse edge hold and has to rely additional tech (magnetraction, frostbite..etc), but a lot more forgiving doing freestyle, meaning less edge catch.

RC doesn't have 'worse' edge hold. It's not quite that simple. I should've mentioned, you do need a slightly different technique. I think snowolf explained it somewhere, fore and aft movements to engage the cambers at the tip and tail.

Yes, the idea is less edge catch, but also things like better float in pow.

Also there are many kinds of alternate camber tech... i've ridden just the one so take what i say with a grain of salt
I think by RC he means Reverse Camber (i.e., Rocker), not Rocker-Camber...
01-21-2013 04:25 PM
grafta
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How fast are you going when you feel like you're going to slide out?

I've been on the NS for a few days now and I find that it holds an edge pretty well on hardpack (dust on crust) but at higher speeds it tends to let go. I've been attributing this to the light full-length detune I gave it, but now I'm thinking it may just be the limitations of the CRC profile.
No real idea how fast... but it is def those moments where you hit a patch that's been scraped out and you aren't expecting it. Nothing to push against if you know what i mean. I did clean up my edges the other day, but they are by no means sharp... not detuned though.

I suspect it's my riding technique too, i think i throw my body weight out away from my edges a bit too much perhaps.

I think you've gotta know how to pressure the cambers at the tip and tail and really work them to your advantage. Push your knees outwards to help engage them, and also use good fore-aft movements through turns. ie: get forward initiating turn, move aft/back towards turn completion to really drive your edge into the snow so you don't skid (much).

^ I think I just quoted snowolf right there. Dunno where that thread is though Credit where credit is due
01-21-2013 04:04 PM
Extremo
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Yeah, i feel like this is about right too. I've been riding hardpack for the last couple weeks on a neversummer evo. Feels like i have to work pretty hard to not slide out sometimes. Gotta go straight more
How fast are you going when you feel like you're going to slide out?

I've been on the NS for a few days now and I find that it holds an edge pretty well on hardpack (dust on crust) but at higher speeds it tends to let go. I've been attributing this to the light full-length detune I gave it, but now I'm thinking it may just be the limitations of the CRC profile.
01-21-2013 03:15 PM
mastershake
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Originally Posted by grafta View Post
So TC is traditional camber right?

RC doesn't have 'worse' edge hold. It's not quite that simple. I should've mentioned, you do need a slightly different technique. I think snowolf explained it somewhere, fore and aft movements to engage the cambers at the tip and tail.

Yes, the idea is less edge catch, but also things like better float in pow.

Also there are many kinds of alternate camber tech... i've ridden just the one so take what i say with a grain of salt
yep, i think its all about getting used to a different board.

and yeah TC is traditional camber. thanks for your input.
01-21-2013 03:12 PM
grafta
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Originally Posted by mastershake View Post
this is one thing i understand from the different type of boards

TC - better edge hold (ice and otherwise) but less forgiving and more catch
RC - worse edge hold and has to rely additional tech (magnetraction, frostbite..etc), but a lot more forgiving doing freestyle, meaning less edge catch.
So TC is traditional camber right?

RC doesn't have 'worse' edge hold. It's not quite that simple. I should've mentioned, you do need a slightly different technique. I think snowolf explained it somewhere, fore and aft movements to engage the cambers at the tip and tail.

Yes, the idea is less edge catch, but also things like better float in pow.

Also there are many kinds of alternate camber tech... i've ridden just the one so take what i say with a grain of salt
01-21-2013 02:49 PM
mastershake
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Originally Posted by grafta View Post
Yeah, i feel like this is about right too. I've been riding hardpack for the last couple weeks on a neversummer evo. Feels like i have to work pretty hard to not slide out sometimes. Gotta go straight more

The couple laps i did on a camber deck reminded me how stable they can feel.

I do like my RC deck though. Where I ride there are a ton of natural features that have strange angles on take offs and landings. The RC def helps when you don't get it quite right and land a bit off.
this is one thing i understand from the different type of boards

TC - better edge hold (ice and otherwise) but less forgiving and more catch
RC - worse edge hold and has to rely additional tech (magnetraction, frostbite..etc), but a lot more forgiving doing freestyle, meaning less edge catch.
01-21-2013 02:45 PM
grafta
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Originally Posted by jojotherider View Post
RC is less grippy on ice, but the magnetraction on your board will make up for some of it.
Yeah, i feel like this is about right too. I've been riding hardpack for the last couple weeks on a neversummer evo. Feels like i have to work pretty hard to not slide out sometimes. Gotta go straight more

The couple laps i did on a camber deck reminded me how stable they can feel.

I do like my RC deck though. Where I ride there are a ton of natural features that have strange angles on take offs and landings. The RC def helps when you don't get it quite right and land a bit off.
01-21-2013 02:36 PM
jojotherider RC is less grippy on ice, but the magnetraction on your board will make up for some of it.
01-21-2013 02:30 PM
mastershake i agree..i definitely was feeling a lot more confident toward the end of the day, but still everytime i got some speed i'd have this feeling that i gotta make sure im on an edge otherwise im gonna bust my ass..haha..so im thinking i need more time with the board.

on the other hand i know its a bit more forgiving than TC boards, but what about on icy conditions or hardpack?
01-21-2013 02:05 PM
Dakota.D Im in the same boat. Although after the first couple of runs it was night and day difference. Gotta love new technology!
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