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11-28-2015 05:33 PM
SnowDogWax
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Originally Posted by ridinbend View Post
Pretty decent guide to a lot of companies various camber types.

Guide to snowboard camber types -
quite an extensive review of camber types







11-28-2015 05:11 PM
ridinbend Pretty decent guide to a lot of companies various camber types.

Guide to snowboard camber types -
06-30-2015 11:06 AM
Wiredsport Hi Bertie,

Profile is a single factor in the much broader performance picture. For example there are "damp" camber boards and very harsh feelling camber boards. That attribute is primarily impacted by core materials, thickness distribution, and laminates. Profile has much less of a role there.

To answer you Q about the the Hot Knife, it is a camber board. The subtle dip in the middle is a nuance feature and does not dramatically impact ride. So, rest assured, you have ridden camber (although only one flavor).

The Attack Banana is a fairly neutral design but EC2 possibly goes further than you would like in terms of relaxed profile for your east coast riding as described above (especially for more "normal" years that this past season).

The Rider's Choice is the Money board in Gnu's line for All Mountain. C2 is a highly versatile profile and the other elements have been balanced to match. This would be my choice for you.
06-30-2015 10:40 AM
Bertieman
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Originally Posted by Wiredsport View Post
Hi Bertie,

Camber: TT, C3 BTX (camber with a dip)
Rocker: BTX, !BTX! (rocker with double dips)
CRC: C2 BTX, EC2 BTX, XC2 BTX, C1 BTX (specialty directional)

I will be happy to compare specific models for you which is a lot more valuable than the generalities above. Let me know what you are looking at
Thanks for the quick reply. I understand what their profiles looks like, so I'm looking for more of a single response that explains what each profile excels at.

I'm in new england so I don't prefer having a pow board, split board, etc, I'd rather just have 1 or 2 all mountain boards. I have the hot knife which I found pretty bad in powder (talking 20-30 inches). Maybe setting it back would have helped. I also didn't care for the hot knife in large mogules because I didn't find it damp at all, at least compared to a never summer SL.

Being that I've never ridden camber, how much does the hot knife actually replicate camber? Is it really close, or somewhere between camber and something like the C2?

Anyway, I've been looking into the gnu riders choice C2 PBTX, attack banana EC2 BTX, and the trs XC2 BTX. Do either of these profiles prove more damp than the C3 or better in powder? Carving? Faster base? (co-sintered hot knife vs the TNT base).

Thanks!
06-30-2015 09:02 AM
Wiredsport
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Originally Posted by Bertieman View Post
Hey wired, any chance you could write up a different explanation for the lib tech model profiles, if you've had the experience with them?
Hi Bertie,

Mervin (Gnu, Lib, Roxy) has a complex naming structure for their line. It is important to note that they actually use unique profiles within many of their named categories so in reality there are more than the eight general profiles that they actually detail for Lib and Gnu. In terms of the general categories we are using for this thread. the Lib and Gnu lines can be simplified to:

Camber: TT, C3 BTX (camber with a dip)
Rocker: BTX, !BTX! (rocker with double dips)
CRC: C2 BTX, EC2 BTX, XC2 BTX, C1 BTX (specialty directional)

I will be happy to compare specific models for you which is a lot more valuable than the generalities above. Let me know what you are looking at
06-29-2015 11:56 PM
Bertieman Hey wired, any chance you could write up a different explanation for the lib tech model profiles, if you've had the experience with them?
03-30-2015 07:17 AM
Wiredsport
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Originally Posted by TooNice View Post
Can anyone comment on the characteristics of Rocker-Flat-Rocker and what kind of riding they tend to be designed for (I am sure it depends from board to board, but if there is any tendency I'd like to know).
Stable and loose. Those are the primary qualities of flat rock. What you get is a flat section between the bindings and then at some point (varies by model) the flat breaks to rocker. Where this occurs determines how stable and how loose . The longer the flat the more stable and the less loose and vice versa.

A couple of important notes.

1. This is the least energetic profile. There is no inherent stored energy in flat rock.

2. The stability mentioned is primary stability which comes from having a large flat surface to stand on. This does not equate to stability at speed. That tends to come from long contact lengths ( which flat rock does not have) and readily planted effective edge.
03-27-2015 03:57 PM
tralald
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Can anyone comment on the characteristics of Rocker-Flat-Rocker and what kind of riding they tend to be designed for (I am sure it depends from board to board, but if there is any tendency I'd like to know).
i find it to be the best profile for rails and small jumps, you get most/all the advantages of rocker and only half of the disadvantages.
used to love it, but got a capita doa this season and when i tried my old capita indoor suvival this season i hated it, felt super sloppy when turning...
03-27-2015 09:36 AM
TooNice Can anyone comment on the characteristics of Rocker-Flat-Rocker and what kind of riding they tend to be designed for (I am sure it depends from board to board, but if there is any tendency I'd like to know).
02-15-2015 12:56 PM
Jimi77 WiredSports - thanks for the info on the camber/rocker profiles. Last time I bought a board, it was pretty much traditional camber and the skate banana was just starting to gain popularity. Now every manufacture offers 4-5 different profiles.... Thanks for bringing some clarity to the matter, you really helped narrow down my selection.
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