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02-17-2013 08:08 PM
hktrdr Wow, everybody in agreement - rarely happens on this forum
That should tell the OP something...
02-17-2013 02:21 PM
BigmountainVMD
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Originally Posted by boarder22ab View Post
As far as width is concerned, I would say 25.3cm ww is still way too wide for a size 8 boot. The board I ride has a 25.2 ww and Im riding size 11 boots. Even with my 11s i have hardly any overhang and couldnt drag my boots if I tried. I think the OP would be much better off with something more narrow. That would make it much easier to engage turns and transition from edge to edge better. I think I might even get something more narrow next season just so I can switch edges faster
I totally agree. After really looking at my Proto with a 25.3 cm waist and size 11 boots... he should have something in the 24s for sure.
02-16-2013 10:47 PM
boarder22ab As far as width is concerned, I would say 25.3cm ww is still way too wide for a size 8 boot. The board I ride has a 25.2 ww and Im riding size 11 boots. Even with my 11s i have hardly any overhang and couldnt drag my boots if I tried. I think the OP would be much better off with something more narrow. That would make it much easier to engage turns and transition from edge to edge better. I think I might even get something more narrow next season just so I can switch edges faster
02-16-2013 10:12 PM
crash77
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Originally Posted by I would argue that with only that many days, [B
what you think you prefer and what you actually need are two different things.[/B]
I can attest to this. I have been riding for 4 yrs and it took me 2 yrs to figure out my riding style/preference. At first I just new I wanted to bomb every hill. However, due to my geographical shortcoming (MD), runs were only lasting 30 seconds. I quickly got bored with that. I'm 35 and the park/jumps were no where on my radar, but lo and behold...because of the hills I have access to I find myself jibbing, doing spins, butters, and now I'm even venturing into the park hitting boxes and rails. Just my 2 cents. Good luck!

(As stated in my previous post, my first board was a used 2010 T.Rice. Sold it (way too stiff for me as a beginner) and brought 2011 rossignol taipan, which I
locked in my fundamentals with, was given 2011 K2 Raygun that I began messing around with freestyle on and now I'm looking to get the 2014 Evo.
02-16-2013 08:27 PM
BigmountainVMD
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Originally Posted by scotty100 View Post
You would agree though there are many who ride this board who are not advanced that just prefer the feel of a stiffer board? It's not the case that riding this board as an intermediate is going to destroy your skills. If the OP likes the feel of a stiffer board and wants something that he could progress with then this might work very well indeed. Down the road, it could also be a very good steeps/powder option in a 2 board quiver...
I would respectfully disagree. This board needs a more advanced rider to handle appropriately. You may be able to progress on it, but progression will be slowed and inhibited especially with only 30 days under your belt. I would argue that with only that many days, what you think you prefer and what you actually need are two different things. The T. Rice is made for a few very specific purposes... it is twin tipped and stiff, made to land big jumps/booters both regular or switch. It is a good steeps/powder option, but only if you are into freestyle. If not, then you want a more directional board!

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Originally Posted by hktrdr View Post
Completely agree with these two. And to add, another (and actually possibly the biggest) problem with the T. Rice is the width - with size 8 feet the OP is really going to struggle to work the edges of this mid-wide board. T. Rice is a great deck, but definitely seems a sub-optimal choice for the OP
I sort of agree here. The T.Rice has a huge jump in width in its larger sizes. So the OP may not have issues with the width, but I would argue he would be more comfortable with something at exactly 25.0 cm or high 24s wide. For reference, I ride a 157 Proto with 25.3 waist and size 11 boots... no toe drag at all.

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Originally Posted by wedore View Post
Thanks for all the feedback everyone, im taking the advice on board (excuse the pun)...im not riding till august so ill keep doing my research and decide to either re-sell it in AUS ( i could prob make money) or keep it.

If i feel it isnt the board for me at my level i can keep it and buy another one for japan in jan maybe as suggested i would be better with a NS proto (which i was considering before i read their website which states its a park board) or maybe the skate banana? Just as a side note the t-rice 153 (25.3cm) has the same width as both the attack banana and the proto ct which is 25.1...so i dont understand how it is a wide board?

In any case i need some bindings anyway...do you guys think the FLUX TT30 bindings would be good bindings for the t.rice or something softer if i went with that?
You say you have no interest in park or freestyle, but you seem to be leaning towards twin tip boards that are designed to be ridden switch in freestyle type situations. If you TRUELY don't ever want to spin or do anything other than straight airs, then you want a directional board, NOT a twin.

If you were looking at NS boards, just for reference, even the NS Heritage is a bit softer than the T. Rice, and even the Heritage is a stiffer board! If you are looking at the NS line, I would suggest the SL. It's nice and damp, so little to no chatter at higher speeds, and it is a directional twin, designed for a forward direction of travel but it can totally be used to ride switch if you ever get in to it. It also has a setback stance so you can move your bindings back on a powder day, something that doesn't work as well on a twin board, like the T. Rice. I still recommend the Lib TRS and the GNU riders choice... the GNU being a bit higher end than the TRS.

As for Flux bindings... I wish I had something to tell you there but I have no experience with them. The model you picked seems to have a good flex pattern but may be a bit heavy? The only other options were their 5/5 stiffness bindings and that might be overkill but I don't know how their bindings compare to Burton bindings, which I am a fan of and know much more about.
02-16-2013 08:18 PM
ksup3erb
Re: which bindings for my setup!?

Don't know anything about Flux, sorry.

You could look into Ride Capo or El hefe.
02-16-2013 07:29 PM
wedore Thanks for all the feedback everyone, im taking the advice on board (excuse the pun)...im not riding till august so ill keep doing my research and decide to either re-sell it in AUS ( i could prob make money) or keep it.

If i feel it isnt the board for me at my level i can keep it and buy another one for japan in jan maybe as suggested i would be better with a NS proto (which i was considering before i read their website which states its a park board) or maybe the skate banana? Just as a side note the t-rice 153 (25.3cm) has the same width as both the attack banana and the proto ct which is 25.1...so i dont understand how it is a wide board?

In any case i need some bindings anyway...do you guys think the FLUX TT30 bindings would be good bindings for the t.rice or something softer if i went with that?
02-16-2013 05:01 PM
hktrdr
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Originally Posted by BigmountainVMD View Post
Just because you do not "like" park, it does not mean you need a crazy stiff board like the T. Rice. I'm telling you bro, you want a nice, middle of the road flexing board. It will be soooo much more pleasurable to ride and you will have much more fun. I made this very mistake in my 4th year of riding, when I picked up a 166 Arbor A-frame, an extremely stiff, cambered, long freeride board that really inhibited my riding progression. Then I got the T. Rice in a 161.5 and it was good, but something more flexible would have been better. Now I ride a 157 NS proto, which would be considered a flexible park oriented board but it does amazing as an all mountain stick and I can carve better on that board than any casual rider on a stiff deck.

The T. Rice is built for big cliff drops, huge jumps and crazy steeps/powder. Going off of Libs website is where many go wrong, and I feel that it is improperly advertised as a park board at all. If you think about it, the lib Dark Series is the most stiff board that Lib offers, and the T. Rice is just second to that. It is rated as a 6/7 (don't let the 153s 6 rating fool you... definitely more of a 7).

Yes, loads of people like the T. Rice. It is a good board, but it is an ADVANCED-EXPERT BIG MOUNTAIN FREESTYLE BOARD. The word freestyle does NOT mean that it is good to ride for a casual or even moderately aggressive rider. I've jest seen so many people on this site go with the T. Rice when there are many better options. I'm only telling you from experience man. A mid flex board will make you so comfortable, you will WANT to get into jumps and boxes because you will feel so confident. This is huge for your confidence, especially if you are in AU where the big mountain/powder opportunities are not widely available.

This will be the last time I will say it, but if you can return it, or sell it locally and go for a GNU riders choice or a TRS, you will be much happier. Neither would be considered a flexible board. Most reviews would label them as mid-stiff.

As for bindings, you don't want any sort of soft or middle of the road bindings for the T. Rice. You need a responsive binding that pairs with the board. Minimum of 6 on a 1 to 10 scale. I rode Burton CO2s with mine, then Prophecys but they are a bit to flexible and Cartels pair better (just for reference).
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Originally Posted by ksup3erb View Post
Like the veterinarian said, the TRice is just too stiff for the casual rider. Lib/GNU makes a variety of stuff that is more user friendly, e.g., the rider's choice, skate or even the attack banana. It has nothing to do with magnetraction -- this is great technology and I love it on my Rider's Choice here on the East (ice) coast. Anything more I've found to be too stiff for my usual conditions (e.g., TRice or Billy goat).

Again, nothing wrong wrog with magnetraction or RCR styles. It's a stiffness issue.

Completely agree with these two. And to add, another (and actually possibly the biggest) problem with the T. Rice is the width - with size 8 feet the OP is really going to struggle to work the edges of this mid-wide board.
T. Rice is a great deck, but definitely seems a sub-optimal choice for the OP
02-16-2013 03:57 PM
scotty100 [QUOTE=BigmountainVMD;732858]Just because you do not "like" park, it does not mean you need a crazy stiff board like the T. Rice. I'm telling you bro, you want a nice, middle of the road flexing board. It will be soooo much more pleasurable to ride and you will have much more fun. I made this very mistake in my 4th year of riding, when I picked up a 166 Arbor A-frame, an extremely stiff, cambered, long freeride board that really inhibited my riding progression. Then I got the T. Rice in a 161.5 and it was good, but something more flexible would have been better. Now I ride a 157 NS proto, which would be considered a flexible park oriented board but it does amazing as an all mountain stick and I can carve better on that board than any casual rider on a stiff deck.

The T. Rice is built for big cliff drops, huge jumps and crazy steeps/powder. Going off of Libs website is where many go wrong, and I feel that it is improperly advertised as a park board at all. If you think about it, the lib Dark Series is the most stiff board that Lib offers, and the T. Rice is just second to that. It is rated as a 6/7 (don't let the 153s 6 rating fool you... definitely more of a 7).

Yes, loads of people like the T. Rice. It is a good board, but it is an ADVANCED-EXPERT BIG MOUNTAIN FREESTYLE BOARD. The word freestyle does NOT mean that it is good to ride for a casual or even moderately aggressive rider. I've jest seen so many people on this site go with the T. Rice when there are many better options. I'm only telling you from experience man. A mid flex board will make you so comfortable, you will WANT to get into jumps and boxes because you will feel so confident. This is huge for your confidence, especially if you are in AU where the big mountain/powder opportunities are not widely available.

This will be the last time I will say it, but if you can return it, or sell it locally and go for a GNU riders choice or a TRS, you will be much happier. Neither would be considered a flexible board. Most reviews would label them as mid-stiff.QUOTE]

You would agree though there are many who ride this board who are not advanced that just prefer the feel of a stiffer board? It's not the case that riding this board as an intermediate is going to destroy your skills. If the OP likes the feel of a stiffer board and wants something that he could progress with then this might work very well indeed. Down the road, it could also be a very good steeps/powder option in a 2 board quiver...
02-16-2013 02:38 PM
BigmountainVMD
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Originally Posted by wedore View Post
hey man thanks for the reply...im def an intermediate rider ive prob only done 30+ days combined. I just really love snowboarding and probably shouldnt have been born in australia lol. i think im pretty good considering the hours ive ridden, just heard a lot of good things about lib tech, ive ridden the rocker camber hybrid and liked it and also know i dont like park thus needing a stiffer board. loads of ppl rave about the t rice , what issues do you have with it as far as an intermediate rider goes?
Just because you do not "like" park, it does not mean you need a crazy stiff board like the T. Rice. I'm telling you bro, you want a nice, middle of the road flexing board. It will be soooo much more pleasurable to ride and you will have much more fun. I made this very mistake in my 4th year of riding, when I picked up a 166 Arbor A-frame, an extremely stiff, cambered, long freeride board that really inhibited my riding progression. Then I got the T. Rice in a 161.5 and it was good, but something more flexible would have been better. Now I ride a 157 NS proto, which would be considered a flexible park oriented board but it does amazing as an all mountain stick and I can carve better on that board than any casual rider on a stiff deck.

The T. Rice is built for big cliff drops, huge jumps and crazy steeps/powder. Going off of Libs website is where many go wrong, and I feel that it is improperly advertised as a park board at all. If you think about it, the lib Dark Series is the most stiff board that Lib offers, and the T. Rice is just second to that. It is rated as a 6/7 (don't let the 153s 6 rating fool you... definitely more of a 7).

Yes, loads of people like the T. Rice. It is a good board, but it is an ADVANCED-EXPERT BIG MOUNTAIN FREESTYLE BOARD. The word freestyle does NOT mean that it is good to ride for a casual or even moderately aggressive rider. I've jest seen so many people on this site go with the T. Rice when there are many better options. I'm only telling you from experience man. A mid flex board will make you so comfortable, you will WANT to get into jumps and boxes because you will feel so confident. This is huge for your confidence, especially if you are in AU where the big mountain/powder opportunities are not widely available.

This will be the last time I will say it, but if you can return it, or sell it locally and go for a GNU riders choice or a TRS, you will be much happier. Neither would be considered a flexible board. Most reviews would label them as mid-stiff.

As for bindings, you don't want any sort of soft or middle of the road bindings for the T. Rice. You need a responsive binding that pairs with the board. Minimum of 6 on a 1 to 10 scale. I rode Burton CO2s with mine, then Prophecys but they are a bit to flexible and Cartels pair better (just for reference).
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