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02-24-2013 09:07 PM
Originally Posted by ksup3erb View Post
It's really not as bad as it sounds. The technology is well thought out and it works. The only issue I've had is with the rachet.

I spent the greater part of 2 hours today setting up my Rome 390 Bosses on another board. Now that's a binding with a lot of parts.
So I've heard. I started to include the Rome bindings as an example for the moving parts bit.

Don't get me wrong, every time I go to the hill and I'm on my 7-8hr, I see someone stepping into their flows and I say to myself "I gotta get some flows!"

I think I'm going to pull the trigger and if they are not my cup of be it, but they're worth a try. I'm just figuring out wether I want to go with the top tier Se's or the Fuse-GT, which are just about the same except for the baseplate and heelcup on the GT's are nylon and not aluminum alloy like the Se's.
02-24-2013 08:54 PM
ksup3erb It's really not as bad as it sounds. The technology is well thought out and it works. The only issue I've had is with the rachet.

I spent the greater part of 2 hours today setting up my Rome 390 Bosses on another board. Now that's a binding with a lot of parts.
02-24-2013 08:50 PM
crash77 Sounds like even with the new n.a.s.t.y. tech, some refinements/tweaks are needed. My apprehension with these bindings are there seem to be so many moving parts that rely on each other to operate smoothly for the whole package to come together.
02-24-2013 07:53 PM
ksup3erb Okay. I actually called backcountry and they sent out a brand new set of bindings. I just replaced the rachets, but I left the vinyl on. I haven't been out again since I made this fix. I tried spraying some water on the ladders and they hold tight. I hope it will hold up with snow/throwing the board around.
02-24-2013 07:11 PM
john doe It has been greatly reduced by backing the ladder strap with vinyl to make it thicker but it still happens because that isn't a real solution. When it happened it was right after a long hiking session where I was throwing the board around. Something I did with my previous Flows and was never a problem.
02-24-2013 05:32 PM
ksup3erb You're still having that problem?
02-24-2013 05:29 PM
john doe
Originally Posted by edlo View Post
I'm reading mixed results and the video from from Flow Fusion - N.A.S.T.Y. - New Active Strap Technology on Vimeo at 1:20 show no more shoe horning. Now that these have been out of a while, there should be enough people to provide good quality feed back. So I have a couple of questions. Please post based on actual experience rather than 2nd hand information from other sources.

1) Do the high backs stay down when these are new or do they have to be "broken in"

2) Do you need to pull the highback up first then the lock or can you pull the lock up and it will pull the highback up with one motion? I know it doesn't make a hell of a lot of difference, more of a can it be down while moving, or does it take two hands? Am I going to be able to get this done before I hit the pile of skiers and boarders at the top of the lift after I get off.

3) Can you strap these on , while sitting on the chair lift?

And yes I've gone through the 35 pages of the NX2 thread, which is what caused my confusion. Some guy posted a video of difficulty strapping in. I'm not concerned about the issues about the buckles over tightening. That is a easy fix, Flow has already demonstrated they can make locking buckles if they want.
1) My SE's needed no break in period for the highbacks to stay down.

2) Putting the highback up is still a two set process but I can easily do it with one hand.

3) Yes I can strap mine on while on the chair lift but do not due to lift rules and personal safety.

I think I'm the only person to post a video in that thread of strapping in and I posted it to show how easy it was. My other video of my buckles being fucked up is still a real issue. I had my toes go cold and numb last night because my front foot's main ratchet tightened and I didn't notice.

To answer the title question yes the NASTY system does get rid of shoehorning. In fact it makes it easy to make them way too tight.
02-24-2013 11:59 AM
Backcountry I don't know about these but the beginning of the video is pretty funny.
02-24-2013 11:19 AM
CK93 The backs stay down. I am still working on lifting up and locking in one motion, but still really quick.

Only issue I have is when I put my foot in, I have to pull the straps back a little, then push my foot just a little more to be able to close up the back.

I can't seem to put my foot in with one nice motion. I put it in, pull the straps back a little, push my foot in a bit more, then lock up the back. The bindings are still new, so it might just be then needing to get broke in.

But they are great! I hear if I went with the NX2-GT or SE, it would remedy that problem. (I have the NX2-AT). But I might have to wait until next season to afford those.
02-24-2013 09:03 AM
ksup3erb I have the Five SEs too without NASTY. Echo what everyone else says. Little to no issues with shoehorning once you get the straps dialed in. I do each side with one hand. I imagine it's even easier with NASTY.

Out of the box never an issue with the high backs not staying down. Never tried strapping in on the lift. It takes only a few seconds on the ground.

The only issue I've encountered is the straps overtightening. I fixed this with electrical tape on the underside of the ladder. Flow's locking buckle needs improvement. Otherwise very nice product.
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