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05-18-2013 08:39 AM
Tackle They changed the 2014 line; finally news things on arbor boards!!!!!
Maybe they found the point
05-09-2013 09:08 PM
BurtonAvenger Your original argument was that they haven't changed any tech, pointed out that they have, now your point is that they aren't eco? I think you're just trying to troll for no other reason than you're bored.
05-09-2013 05:58 PM
Tackle I agree but I'm not saying that I'm ecofriendly, arbor does!!!
05-09-2013 04:50 PM
Sudden_Death Dubai isn't really any less sustainable than LA. With the centralized shipping as well as likely less travel for any component pieces I don't see this really raising their footprint by all that much. Unless you ride a poplar you grew, chopped and shaped yourself that you tie yourself to with hemp and only wax it with beeswax and hike for your turns (including getting to the mountain) then there really isn't anything ecofriendly about this sport.
05-09-2013 01:54 PM
Tackle Arbor is changing a lot but not tha boards; the choice of Dubai is a bad choice for a Eco friendly factory.
Voila the point!!!
05-05-2013 07:44 PM
Originally Posted by Tackle View Post
BurtonA did you find my point?????
What point?
05-05-2013 06:24 PM
Originally Posted by blunted_nose View Post
Boards should be made in A) British Columbia B) Colorado C) Austria D) i dont know what im typing.

haha. dubai. what a random place to build boards.
Why should boards be made in BC, Colorado or Austria?

Dubai is no more random than having boots or bindings made in China. Or having outerwear that is made in Mexico (I think there used to be snowboards manufactured in Mexico as well).

It is pure and simple economic feasibility. Except for a handful of companies (Mervin, NS, Smokin', Niche, etc.), most snowboard brands cannot afford to have them built in BC, Colorado or Austria. It might also be worth mentioning that an even smaller fraction of those companies actually get their source materials for their boards in North America.

If you read the article I linked to previously, Dubai actually makes sense. Granted it is not the first place you think of when you think of manufacturing snowboards.
05-05-2013 06:09 PM
Tackle BurtonA did you find my point?????
05-05-2013 05:52 PM
blunted_nose Boards should be made in A) British Columbia B) Colorado C) Austria D) i dont know what im typing.

haha. dubai. what a random place to build boards.
05-04-2013 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by RockyMTNsteeze View Post
Is Arbor seriously moving to Dubai? They brag about using environmentally friendly materials and then move their factory to Dubai, wow. Dubai is in a desert like Las Vegas. Both places uses a shit load of water and stress the environment around them to make the desert unlike the desert. The carbon footprint in Dubai is much larger than even LA.

Arbor looses all credibility for their environmental eco story on their website. They moved their factory to one of the most un sustainable places in the world, lol.

That indoor ski hill is not friendly for the environment. Plus testing equipment in a tiny indoor hill is not the kind of riding I would do, someone who will seriously ride a board.

I would quit Arbor if I worked for them and had to move to Dubai. People have gone to jail for years from poppy seeds from a bagel. Some over the counter cough medicines are illegal narcotics there. Women can go to jail if they report rape because it's illegal to have sex before marriage. Fuck that place.

I guess they will find plenty of slave labor to make the snowboards cheaper. They better not go bankrupt in Dubai. I hear debtors go to jail.

Fuck Arbor, I got Mervin.
Agreed. The carbon footprint is a lot larger in Dubai. I'm not really speaking to Arbor's eco-conscious philosophy, but more a CODB thing. Shipping is easier. Buying and selling materials and products in euros and dollars is easier. The indoor ski hill is a lot more practical than building a prototype shipping it to a place in the world that would where they could test out the changes. With few exceptions snowboard manufacturers are struggling from declining sales and they couldn't afford the cost of having their boards built at the Elan factory. I just think it is survival.

As someone from the PNW, until Mervin gives me a reason not to buy their boards, I will support the local businesses in my area.

Also just to be clear. Arbor does not own the factory. They contract the factory to build boards for them. Like Elan many other company's will have their boards built there. It is an OEM factory. The employees probably will be hired locally.

Though what I find most interesting is several people posting about Dubai's alleged human rights record. Most, if not all of us, who snowboard, buy boots and bindings that are most likely manufactured in China, which is not most definitely known as a bastion of human rights, nor are the other places some of the equipment we purchase are made. If your looking for gear that is made in places with pristine human rights records, you're going to be riding barefoot without bindings.
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