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Yesterday 04:06 PM
F1EA
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Originally Posted by Mahihkan View Post
Cool. I can relate to that.

I feel less than Dialled in on my CRC NS 169 Chairman. For this reason, I have wondered whether I would have been better off with the 165. That said I was dialled right in on my old full camber board at 168cm.

If you were me and looking at a RCR Flagship, would you be inclined to go 165 or 169? (I.E. Shorten up the board a few cm's or keep it long)

I know I should get out for a demo day, but until then...
Hmmm depends what terrain and riding you want to do...

I'd say the 166 should be plenty good for you in almost any case.

I havent ridden the Flagship (and wouldnt buy it for me cause it's pretty stiff). But in general the Flag is pretty stable, so with that profile and flex it doesnt need to be that long. But again, depends on terrain and what you like.

Also, your foot measurement says you should be ~US11. So maybe US 11-11.5 i don't think you need Wide at ~166 or so
Yesterday 02:35 PM
Mahihkan
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Originally Posted by F1EA View Post
The Flagship will feel somewhat like a shorter full camber board with better float. But it will still feel like camber.

If you go a bit longer, you will get a hell of a lot better float and feel slightly shorter edge. If you go a bit shorter you will feel a lot less edge but still a bit better float than full camber...

You're probably looking at 165-169 depending what style, terrain and snow you want to do...
Cool. I can relate to that.

I feel less than Dialled in on my CRC NS 169 Chairman. For this reason, I have wondered whether I would have been better off with the 165. That said I was dialled right in on my old full camber board at 168cm.

If you were me and looking at a RCR Flagship, would you be inclined to go 165 or 169? (I.E. Shorten up the board a few cm's or keep it long)

I know I should get out for a demo day, but until then...
Yesterday 01:08 PM
F1EA
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Originally Posted by Mahihkan View Post
I am an old school freerider. I love my carves. Last year I picked up my first rockered board. A Never Summer Chairman. While I adjusted to it, I never did fall in love with it. I am going back to a cambered board this year. Right now I am eyeballing the Jones Flagship which is cambered under foot, however appears to have a touch of rocker at the contact points tip and tail. My question is, how will this feel when I ride it? For those who know Traditional camber to ride it, how does the bit of rocker tip and tail feel to carve in comparison?

Gracias
The Flagship will feel somewhat like a shorter full camber board with better float. But it will still feel like camber.

If you go a bit longer, you will get a hell of a lot better float and feel slightly shorter edge. If you go a bit shorter you will feel a lot less edge but still a bit better float than full camber...

You're probably looking at 165-169 depending what style, terrain and snow you want to do...
Yesterday 12:25 PM
Mahihkan
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Originally Posted by Wiredsport View Post
Got it. What model was your old Burton? Also, let's check one more thing for good measure

Please measure your foot using this method:

Kick your heel (barefoot please, no socks) back against a wall. Mark the floor exactly at the tip of your toe (the one that sticks out furthest - which toe this is will vary by rider). Measure from the mark on the floor to the wall. That is your foot length and is the only measurement that you will want to use. Measure in centimeters if possible, but if not, take inches and multiply by 2.54 (example: an 11.25 inch foot x 2.54 = 28.57 centimeters).
28.7cm
Burton Canyon
Yesterday 10:57 AM
Wiredsport
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Originally Posted by Mahihkan View Post
Thanks for the reply. I am 6'2", 195lbs and have Size 12 feet? My ChairmanX is a 169. I ride everything at the hill with the exception of the park. I also take it regularly into slack country/out of bounds stuff. The exception is backcountry, where I use my split.

Where I dislike the Chairman is when the snow is beginning to pack out and the board simply doesn't feel like it wants to carve fluidly no matter how hard I pump into the edges. It feels washy under foot. Much different than my old Burton 168wide traditional camber.
Got it. What model was your old Burton? Also, let's check one more thing for good measure

Please measure your foot using this method:

Kick your heel (barefoot please, no socks) back against a wall. Mark the floor exactly at the tip of your toe (the one that sticks out furthest - which toe this is will vary by rider). Measure from the mark on the floor to the wall. That is your foot length and is the only measurement that you will want to use. Measure in centimeters if possible, but if not, take inches and multiply by 2.54 (example: an 11.25 inch foot x 2.54 = 28.57 centimeters).
Yesterday 06:08 AM
Mahihkan
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Originally Posted by Wiredsport View Post
Hi Mahihkan,

Stoked that you are getting a new deck! To keep the terms clear, The Chairmain is a CRC model and the Flagship is RCR. There are big differences in the way these perform in relation to true rocker and true camber. Your Chairman had a lot more weighted surface contact length than would true rocker boards and the Flagship will have significantly less than a true cambered board. The transitions from camber to rocker on the Flagship begin early with the nose rocker being very long (the RCR is directional). Let's get your basics so we can know better where the Chairman fell short for you.

Weight
Foot Size
cm size of your Chairman
Typical Riding Area
Thanks for the reply. I am 6'2", 195lbs and have Size 12 feet? My ChairmanX is a 169. I ride everything at the hill with the exception of the park. I also take it regularly into slack country/out of bounds stuff. The exception is backcountry, where I use my split.

Where I dislike the Chairman is when the snow is beginning to pack out and the board simply doesn't feel like it wants to carve fluidly no matter how hard I pump into the edges. It feels washy under foot. Much different than my old Burton 168wide traditional camber.
Yesterday 05:19 AM
Wiredsport
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahihkan View Post
I am an old school freerider. I love my carves. Last year I picked up my first rockered board. A Never Summer Chairman. While I adjusted to it, I never did fall in love with it. I am going back to a cambered board this year. Right now I am eyeballing the Jones Flagship which is cambered under foot, however appears to have a touch of rocker at the contact points tip and tail. My question is, how will this feel when I ride it? For those who know Traditional camber to ride it, how does the bit of rocker tip and tail feel to carve in comparison?

Gracias
Hi Mahihkan,

Stoked that you are getting a new deck! To keep the terms clear, The Chairmain is a CRC model and the Flagship is RCR. There are big differences in the way these perform in relation to true rocker and true camber. Your Chairman had a lot more weighted surface contact length than would true rocker boards and the Flagship will have significantly less than a true cambered board. The transitions from camber to rocker on the Flagship begin early with the nose rocker being very long (the RCR is directional). Let's get your basics so we can know better where the Chairman fell short for you.

Weight
Foot Size
cm size of your Chairman
Typical Riding Area
09-26-2016 08:09 PM
Mahihkan I am an old school freerider. I love my carves. Last year I picked up my first rockered board. A Never Summer Chairman. While I adjusted to it, I never did fall in love with it. I am going back to a cambered board this year. Right now I am eyeballing the Jones Flagship which is cambered under foot, however appears to have a touch of rocker at the contact points tip and tail. My question is, how will this feel when I ride it? For those who know Traditional camber to ride it, how does the bit of rocker tip and tail feel to carve in comparison?

Gracias
11-28-2015 05:33 PM
SnowDogWax
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Originally Posted by ridinbend View Post
Pretty decent guide to a lot of companies various camber types.

Guide to snowboard camber types -
quite an extensive review of camber types







11-28-2015 05:11 PM
ridinbend Pretty decent guide to a lot of companies various camber types.

Guide to snowboard camber types -
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