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|01-18-2016 05:52 PM|
More reviews for the Proto HD
Me: I'm an east coast rider, mostly riding the ice-coast famous resorts like Killington, Mount Snow, JFBB, Creek etc. I am an intermediate freestyle focused rider and spend about 75% of my days doing laps in the parks. When I'm not there, I'm doing all mountain riding with friends trying to get as much as I can out of each trail with sidehits, natural icewall rides, butters, etc. I am 29 years old, 5'11, and 155 lbs.
I have no connection to NS whatsoever. I'm a nobody rider who loves snowboarding - looked to this thread to purchase this board - purchased it - rode for 2 years - review.
Setup: 2014 NS Proto HD 152 with 2014 Burton Malavita Bindings.
In the past two years, I've had the opportunity to take a few different setups on a few runs for side-by-side comparisons to the Proto HD. Some of the boards off the top of my head were the Arbor Formula 152, Arbor Westmark 153, Burton Hero 158W, Burton Namedropper 155, Bataleon Disaster 151, Libtech Skate Banana 152. My main setup before the Proto was the K2 Parkstar 155.
What stood out in general with the NS Proto from the rest of the boards was the lightweight and dampness. It is something difficult to feel at first, but after trying different boards side-by-side it is a lot more noticeable to feel the difference. The weight is immediately noticeable when letting the board dangle from your legs while sitting. It also allows for easier initiation on turns and easier maneuvering in general. A simple lean will get you going in the direction you want.
On the mountain, the board is generally smooth and handles most chop and ice with ease. I was lucky enough to go out to Mount Snow last year in February during a heavy snowfall which meant tons of powder. During that time, the board rode pretty much like any other day. To be honest, I didn't really think much about it that day because I was able to ride effortlessly that day like any other normal day. I think that speaks for itself on powder performance. (A friend also commented that it looked like I was floating on the powder "no problem") It is definitely not the fastest board I've owned. I managed to put a major gash on the board on the very first day out so that may be why. I immediately repaired it and I don't remember doing anything at all to create such a deep cut and I've never had it happen to any snowboard I've owned in the past. It was a normal day in the park on boxes/rails/kickers. However, I've taken it out many times in the same park and never produced anything more than a very slight scratch in the past 2 years. I think it was an isolated incident.
In the park, this board does pretty much exactly everything I want it to. The weight will again help here. I can feel it especially on the kickers. Spins and shiftys felt much more natural but moreso than that it was upon landing that I noticed Parkstar always made a certain type of lighter and hollow sound like knocking on a desk when stomping out a trick. The NS proto feels more solid. It makes a damp thunk much like a kick bass. As you approach the bigger kickers around 30ft and up, this becomes a lot more noticeable. The board flex definitely needs breaking in. It felt quite stiff at first but after a few days and it felt a bit better. After 2 years, the flex has become reliably medium. It doesn't have as much flex as the Bataleon Disaster, Arbor Westmark, or Formula. Forgot to try pressing on other boards.
Some other comments: I saw that the pop on this board was heavily advertised when I was looking to purchase the board. I'm not sure why, but I dont notice the pop from board to board ever really and this one included.
The textured top sheet is cool. It holds up to abuse a lot better than any other board I've owned. It holds a decent grip to your boot when coming off of a lift I guess.
At 152cm board length for my weight at 155 lbs, the board feels adequate for pretty much everything. The TraceSnow app clocked me at 64 mph bombing down a hill in Vermont. Didn't notice too much chatter or anything really different. Wish they made a 150 or 151 but that is just nitpicking and experimentation
The board that felt most similar to the proto out of all the boards I tried was surprisingly the Bataleon Disaster. It had a lot more flex, but the weight and edge to edge felt mostly similar. But the bataleon was 1cm shorter at 151.
|01-02-2016 02:41 AM|
|Mcmerk||Tell me about it. The 160 was going to be my first choice, however it was sold out and I thought, how different can a 158w be.. Oh well, I'm not too fussed. Shit happens|
|01-01-2016 03:00 PM|
Originally Posted by Mcmerk View Post
If you read the 2 responses to your own post, you would have had a good idea what to expect. Yet... you chose to go completely against...
Also, demoed and liked a Burton Process FV.... yet bought a NS Proto. What fucking logic is that?
Lessons learned indeed.
Damn. This is my first post in 2016 and I'm already being a jerk. So much for this new year's resolution
I'll be nice.
|01-01-2016 11:18 AM|
So I purchased the 158w proto which I have rode for 2 days, due to trying a button process Flying V a month back and really enjoyed the hybrid camber(which was a 157w), however the proto for some reason didn't feel right. The board felt too soft. It felt like every time I would turn, the board would twist in the middle. Didn't feel controlled at speed, although conditions were not great. I imagine this is due to the rocker/camber hybrid? Was the board too small for my weight and height, even though it was the wide version? Maybe it was too wide?
Lesson learnt - demo a board before buying!
Any help would be appreciated.
Weight - 95kg
Height - 185cm
Boot size - 11.5us (burton ion).
|12-30-2015 12:31 PM|
Originally Posted by snowklinger View Post
23" stance width
size 11 burton Ions
Large burton malavita bindings
I ended up selling the board. At 6'1 210lbs it was a noodle. probably a great park board but not all mountain freestyle.
|12-27-2015 03:16 PM|
Originally Posted by Mcmerk View Post
|12-27-2015 01:04 PM|
Proto 157x or 160x
I'm looking to either buy the proto HD 157x or 160x before I go away.
Height - 6'1
Weight - 215lbs
Boots - button ion 11.5us
Mainly doing groomers, trees, powder (when there is powder), 20% tricks using natural obstacles.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
|03-18-2015 08:03 AM|
Originally Posted by jdang307 View Post
The Psychs worked perfectly and held my boot as well as any top loaders I have had. Easily bound in while standing or riding slowly after unloading from the lift.
Overall I am very hey with this upgrade! It was also a first for me getting compliments on the board on the lift and in lift lines.
|03-18-2015 12:08 AM|
It should be fine. My Proto is breaking in and getting softer but I'm feeling it out more and you can go pretty fast with it. It is really a softer all mountain/parkish deck. I'm 145-150 on a 152.
Never been to the east coast but from what I've seen and read, it should be fine. If you were regularly riding big mountains I'd probably size up.
I'm finding myself just doing jumps, won't touch a rail, and no boxes so I don't necessarily need a softer deck and may be getting rid of mine but it's a fun board.
|03-07-2015 08:26 AM|
Hi all, I have been riding a gnu carbon credit 153 for probably the past 5 years. I'm 5' 6" and weigh about 170. As an intermediate boarder staying mostly to groomers on the east coast, I do occasionally get out west. I decided to upgrade to something with a cintered base, a bit better edge control on ice but still forgiving like my cc. I decided to order a NS proto hd 154. Being only slightly longer but seems a considerably longer effective edge, is this the right length?
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