|Topic Review (Newest First)|
|01-31-2014 01:29 AM|
Phantoms are awesome! love em.
super solid bomber connection- the binding plate holds the board halves together very tightly. plates themselves flex a bit laterally, for a bit of softness side to side.
toe to heel they're super responsive and powerful, can really rail a turn.
transitions are typically fast, but if you get icing ya gotta scrape some off, mostly the inside edge and around the cleats where the plates attach
boots i use are the lightest softest AT shoes out there (dynafit ones, and tlt5 or 6), with some modifications, comfortable, durable, reliable and the system tours way better than soft set ups, waaaaaay better, like really a lot. Shreds great too, same same but you can really power the rails.
the one drawback is the cost. spendy!!
|01-29-2014 03:11 PM|
|EROB||What do you think about the Phantoms? I'm curious about the feel of the hard boot. Any hotspots on your feet? What about response? Is the system any easier/better than other soft boot set ups?|
|01-14-2014 01:08 PM|
another take on it....
2014 Never Summer Prospector 167X
set up with Phantom Splitboard bindings (Phos and dual heel risers), Dynafit LoTech Race toe pieces, Coltech 140mm skins (mohair/synthetic blend), dynafit boots tlt5 mtn (mondo 29)
rider - me, 6', 175# plus gear, 24.75" stance (reg), front+20, back-5, 25+years snowboarding, expert/haywire.
background - i've been riding NS boards for the past 15 years, mostly due to their quality bombproof materials and construction. I really enjoy riding my SL split, but i guess i was a bit spoiled by the Blaho Bros custom offerings, and when NS took over the splits production, they inherited a customer who was used to getting exactly what i wanted (Titan splits, mostly). I ride a Raptor 169X solid and it's always been a bit of a switch for me, from charging around the resort, to the slower, more playful style of the SL. So i guess i kind of harassed them a bit, they took my feedback very well, and they responded with the Prospector. This board was given to me to review, based on my relationship with NS product development.
specs: 167 cm, edge 130, tip 31.8, waist 26.4cm, tail 29.8, sidecut 'vario 890', damp rating '8/10', flex rating '6.5/10', weight 8.31# with hooks and clips
Carbonium Laminate Technology
Extended Tour Rocker Camber Profile
Low Profile Tip/Tail
STS Pretensioned Fiberglass
NS SuperLight Wood Core
Harmonic Tip/Tail Damper HDT
CDS Dampening System
Elastomeric Underfoot Stabilizers
Sintered P-tex Inner and Outer Sidewall
Durasurf XT Sintered 5501 Base
Full Wrap Metal Edge
my first impression of the Prospector was that it is a very classy offering from NS. Craftsmanship is typical - flawless, graphics are classic - Mt Shuksan, colours are great - clean cool shades on the Carbonium top sheet, and safety third! on the base with the bright red.
Looking at the specs, i wasn't sure exactly what to make of it, i'd asked for a Raptor split and the Prospector was kind of... sort of... almost.. the Summit!! reworked... was it??
well, yes and no, the specs show the Prospector as having the taper and the flex of the Summit, but a longer sidecut, longer edge, wider size, and a new RC profile....
the 'tour' part of the ext tour RC profile is about 20cms of flat base underfoot in ski mode.
the nose profile
and the tail show a fair bit of camber from the feet outwards in ride mode, and the rocker sets up the nose and tail with about 8 mms rise before the low profile curves start.
looks good, yah, but the proofs in the shreddin!!
The Prospector shreds, no doubt. I've had it out the last couple months in conditions from bottomless pow, to blower pow, to settled pow, deep pow, sick deep pow and, for variety, some wind board, some upside down stuff, some cut up stuff, and some firm packed stuff on the out tracks. The board holds a rail and is confident at speed. Its also quite stable as split skis.
While i was concerned that the taper might loosen up the tail too much, it does a lot of good for the planing attitude of the deck in soft snow. The nose does not dive unless you really, really, definitely deserve it, and the burn on the back leg is much reduced. The tail is looser than on a twin tip, but in a good way: precise steering takes little effort, and the tail is still right there when its needed.
i was also worried that 6.5/10 flex sounds a lot softer than the 8/10 flex i enjoy on the Raptor, but its actually not much softer at all. When you crank on it, it rips the sh!t.
Durability is bomber as expected from NS; the board smashed some early season sharks in the water with very little collateral damage.
Tourability is fine. With the extended RC profile, as well as the flat 'tour' segment in the profile, i expect most people should have no problems going up hill. newbs might want to use ascension or high traction skins, and those with more skinning experience should be good to go with some slicker skins.
Honestly, this board is all i wanted and then some. The Prospector is a real all mountain charger, effortless to manoeuvre, stable at high speeds, powerful on a rail thru long and short turns, and durable enough to take some big mountain abuse.
2 thumbs up!
|01-13-2014 01:41 PM|
Just wanted to add a little to the review. I took the 167X Prospector out in full on powder conditions on the Fourth.
Damn, this thing floats just fine. The extended rocker on the nose planes up on top of the snow rather quickly and at pretty low speeds. Overall it is a perfectly capable powder board. I won't hesitate to take it in the deep. I have a hunch this will be much improved in a Maritime climate like Washington. I'll be bringing it with me on my annual trip out to that region.
|07-01-2013 05:29 PM|
|koi||Thanks for the review dude. I plan on getting a split within the year.|
|06-21-2013 06:37 PM|
Originally Posted by Vman View Post
|06-20-2013 01:27 PM|
Originally Posted by danm View Post
The Prospector comes in 160, 161X, 164, 167X.
Thanks for your interest. We will update our website in August but send me a PM if you want a hard copy of the catalog.
|06-20-2013 11:58 AM|
Originally Posted by SinkHole View Post
I might try to put something together, but my gut feeling is that it won't be that interesting. The only thing I go going for me is I am riding off of high peaks.
We'll see, I should have some time to edit and see if I can stitch something decent together over the next few days.
|06-20-2013 10:33 AM|
|SinkHole||Where's the video footy?|
|06-20-2013 10:16 AM|
|killclimbz||I know there is a 161 and 167 wide. There are at least two more sizes in the regular width.|
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