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08-12-2013 04:32 AM
stevros48 The worst that can happen is that it packs out a bit too much and someone gets a bargain from me 2nd hand. Id rather have a boot thats comfortable. The 10s were heat molded and they feel a bit cramped at toe.whereas 10.5s are still close to toes but not as much. I think that lies in the footbed....the bootfitter at store said it was close but he wouldnt want me to go into an 11 an i would agree ....will give you guys an update once i use them a few times up the mountain and hope i can help someone with similar questions with 32 lashed who reads these forums.
08-12-2013 04:16 AM
stevros48
update

Well i went back to store today and they were ok to swap the 10 for the 10.5 ...it did feel better in the toe area on my big toe ...had to tighten the inner liner and no heat molding required so only time will tell....the sales guy said i should still be good for 2 seasons minimum as i only ride no more than 20 days a season...hope to get up more next year...
.about 90% of people who reviwed 32 lasched online say they fit true to street shoe size.i
08-11-2013 11:45 PM
hktrdr
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So what about the pack out?

I have read that thirty two has allowed for that and that their liners wont pack out like boots used to?
Short answer: They may pack out for you may not pack out.

Every boot packs out - some more than others, but it also depends on the rider and usage. Heat moldable models tend to pack out a little bit less.


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Its frustrating that the companys don't list the length of what each boot is in cm and the general comments are boots should feel slightly uncomfortable in the shop but I know a lot of guys who are 15 to 20 year boarders and they say if its not comfy in the shop its not going to be on the mountain.
It might be frustrating, but it is just the way it is - because it is not just about size, but mostly about the shape of your foot. Feet are so different that it is virtually impossible to generalize on fit - that is why there really is no alternative to trying a bunch of different models in person.

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I don't know why boot fitting stores even bother with the brannock devices ,I mean if thirty twos sizes are running 1 to 1 and a half sizes smaller than say DC or NIKE.
The point is that with the sizing device you can rule out boots/sizes that will definitely not fit. However, just because the sizing is correct, does not mean the boots will fit correctly - see above.
08-11-2013 10:54 PM
stevros48 So what about the pack out?

I have read that thirty two has allowed for that and that their liners wont pack out like boots used to?
Its frustrating that the companys don't list the length of what each boot is in cm and the general comments are boots should feel slightly uncomfortable in the shop but I know a lot of guys who are 15 to 20 year boarders and they say if its not comfy in the shop its not going to be on the mountain.

I don't know why boot fitting stores even bother with the brannock devices ,I mean if thirty twos sizes are running 1 to 1 and a half sizes smaller than say DC or NIKE.

All I know is that after heat molding with toe caps I was supposed to have more room in toe area and I don't believe its made any difference so I wonder if its a footbed problem or simply I need to upsize?
08-11-2013 09:07 PM
hktrdr
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So do you mean that the 10 and a half is different and that they wont pack out?
No, it means that all sizes (including half-sizes) have different lasts/basic sizing.
For some models what your shop told you is accurate, i.e., the shell is the same for adjacent full- and half-size and the differences are the foot bed and liner. However, for boots with 1:1 lasting (like the 32 Lashed) the whole boot changes even between full- and half-sizes.
08-11-2013 06:05 AM
stevros48 So do you mean that the 10 and a half is different and that they wont pack out?
08-11-2013 04:23 AM
hktrdr
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Also the shop says there is no difference between the 10 and 10 and a half as its only differences in the lining shell and footbed.
BTW, that is false - the 32 Lashed have 1:1 lasting.
08-11-2013 04:03 AM
hktrdr
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Hey guys.

I bought a new pair of 32 Lashed snowboard boots in size 10 and got them heat molded in store with toe caps.
They seem a good fit generally but I feel that even when I get into riding position my toes are a wee bit cramped )not curled).
I thought the idea was the toes should just touch then not touch once in ride position ,they feel slightly cramped from above as well.

So ive read a lot of reviews where guys are saying the 32 boots run small so you should just get your street shoe size....even 32 themselves claim this but when I was in the store they go off the brannock system and seem to religiously stick to the downsize rule and keep saying the boot will pack out.

Some say in recent seasons this is not true and some boot liners do not pack out as much as they used to especially 32.
Also the shop says there is no difference between the 10 and 10 and a half as its only differences in the lining shell and footbed.

They also mention if it doesn't work I can always get custom footbeds.

So if I am fitting a 10and a half in street shoe Brooks and an 11 in a Puma im just wondering should I just attempt a second toe cap heat mold or should I take em back and try the 10 and a half which they claim will be faaaar too big even though 32 company themselves claim these things are more true to size.
I haven't taken em up mountain yet so may be able to swap them.
Ive been using hire Burton 10s and 10 and a halfs ( are they bigger than 32 sizing? )

SO frustrating how there is so much conflicting info on snowboard boot fitting.
Any help from anyone who is using 32 Lashed 2012 or 13 boots would be greatly appreciated thanks !
Go back to post #2 in this thread. Alkasquawlik is absolutely correct - there is really unlikely that you will get a reliable answer on boot fitting online.
Fit varies between model, manufacturers, model years, and even between different sizes for the same model in the same year. Most importantly it depends on the individual foot shape and there is no way to generalize. In my core (pun LOL) group of friends we ride multiple pairs Burton, Salomon, Vans, 32, and Ride boots and there is absolutely overall theme - some people upsize for Burton/Vans/32/Ride, some downsize; some find Vans run wide, others find they run narrow, etc.
The only general rule is that only trying them on (and sometimes even only riding them) will tell you whether a boot fits your foot.
08-11-2013 02:26 AM
stevros48 Hey guys.

I bought a new pair of 32 Lashed snowboard boots in size 10 and got them heat molded in store with toe caps.
They seem a good fit generally but I feel that even when I get into riding position my toes are a wee bit cramped )not curled).
I thought the idea was the toes should just touch then not touch once in ride position ,they feel slightly cramped from above as well.

So ive read a lot of reviews where guys are saying the 32 boots run small so you should just get your street shoe size....even 32 themselves claim this but when I was in the store they go off the brannock system and seem to religiously stick to the downsize rule and keep saying the boot will pack out.

Some say in recent seasons this is not true and some boot liners do not pack out as much as they used to especially 32.
Also the shop says there is no difference between the 10 and 10 and a half as its only differences in the lining shell and footbed.

They also mention if it doesn't work I can always get custom footbeds.

So if I am fitting a 10and a half in street shoe Brooks and an 11 in a Puma im just wondering should I just attempt a second toe cap heat mold or should I take em back and try the 10 and a half which they claim will be faaaar too big even though 32 company themselves claim these things are more true to size.
I haven't taken em up mountain yet so may be able to swap them.
Ive been using hire Burton 10s and 10 and a halfs ( are they bigger than 32 sizing? )

SO frustrating how there is so much conflicting info on snowboard boot fitting.
Any help from anyone who is using 32 Lashed 2012 or 13 boots would be greatly appreciated thanks !
06-21-2013 04:56 PM
Littlebigdreams cool, thanks!
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