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I have smoked a great deal of weed (though I don't consider myself a stoner) I only smoke maybe once every week or two. I have attempted to break through with some unextracted salvia, not recommended, its very stressful. I am curious about what hallucinogenic I should try next, I have access to anything really, from mescaline, shrooms, acid, ect.. but I wish to work my way up from lesser to greater before I try salvia again (or acid for that matter). Cannabis has changed me a lot (for the better) and its only a mild hallucinogenic, I would like to see what the stronger ones can do for me, and in your opinion what like "levels" are they like I assume Weed would be at the bottom, would the next one be shrooms? Thanks.
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I would say shrooms would be your next step. I'm not sure what strength salvia you tried, but from my past experiences with 35x, it was by far the most intense trip I've ever had even if it lasted approximately 5 min. I've only done shrooms and acid otherwise and those were not nearly as crazy as salvia. For your first time I would say eat about a half 1/8 of shrooms and see how you feel. If you like it maybe step up to a full 1/8 for your next trip. The number one most important thing to do when tripping is keep a positive mindset. If you start dwelling and feeling sad it can turn into a pretty bad/depressing trip, so make sure you're in a comfortable environment where you can have a good time with some buddies. I've only experienced bad trips with shrooms but not acid(which is by far one of my favorites). My experiences with acid were a lot more fun and euphoric than with shrooms. Same process, take one hit see how you feel, then consider upping the dosage next time. Sorry for the long post but hopefully it helps. Other than that be careful and have fun! Hallucinogens are a rad new world.
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Why not just try them all

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umm I wouldn't say that weed is a hallucinogen

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i wouldnt recommend shrooms unless you are with a really good group of friends..2-3 people tops
taking them alone sucks and if theres just one negative person around they can ruin your trip. its an awesome experience if its sunny out and you have a park or a nice outdoor spot near you that you can just chill at
never dealt with acid but from what i hear its better than shrooms and you get more visuals and a smaller chance of having a bad trip
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you obviously have never greened out then have you lol weed most deffinately has hallucinogenic properties. but when youve smoked that much weed, its not very fun because everything is spinning and its just.. no. lol and hallucinogenic doesnt necessarily mean it makes you see things, you can have a "mental trip" which you just come to a realization or have the feeling that you acquired something from the trip. weed has given me this many of times.
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Having done most everything in the book, I may be able to help...

First off I am completely clean these days, and have been drug free for years. I don't personally encourage people to do drugs these days, as I know it's held me back some. But I know if someone is going to do it, they're going to do it regardless.

So with that here is my suggestion.

My personal experiences on acid have always been fun..... Usually hours of smiling and laughing and experiencing things in a new way was how it went down. However there have been a couple hours out of my hundred or so acid trips that weren't the best. Usually it takes something bad to happen, and then you just blow it wayyyyyy out of proportion then suddenly your having a bad trip. So you just have to remember that you on a fun acid ride and it will be over when it's over, then life will return to normal.... After a couple days ( =

With shrooms however... With me personally, I always have had bad trips for the second halfish of the trip. Usually my stomach began to hurt or something from the shrooms digesting improperly, and then my mind ran with it and bam, bad trip. On acid you may have some "dirty"/"achy" feeling but they were never bad enough to send my trip off in a bad direction.

I never did mescaline as a 15 or so hour trip has NEVER sounded fun to me.

My personal opinion if your going to try drugs, is to just do acid. It's overall a happier experience...

But honestly man, my true deep down opinion is to please not do hallucinogens at all. I highly recommend cleaning yourself up before you find yourself in jail, and then leading that lifestyle. I can assure you that a felony or any sort of criminal record will follow you for life one way or another. I just got my record expunged after many years... I had my fun, and while it was happening, it was a blast. Looking back I know I should've gotten my shit together earlier in life and life as a whole would be easier.

Go to college as it's the new high school... Make something of yourself other then another person that does drugs. The more you do drugs, then more drugs you will do. Before long you may find yourself doing some shit you never would've expected, and you may regret it later.

That my pennies
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First of all, you can't really compare mushrooms and marijuana. They're completely different. But I'd suggest trying some mushrooms with a couple good friends as mentioned. I'd advise a sitter you're quite comfortable with being around (I felt uneasy whenever I came upon someone I wasn't familar with). If you live in the States, be very careful in terms of getting caught, etc. I'd be familar with any state level laws.

I'd also suggest mushrooms. You can get some bad acid especially if your source is sketchy. The caps are what contain the Psilocybin. Most importantly make sure you have a good Set and setting.
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I've never seen "bad" acid... Just weak and strong
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oh im very well versed in the marijuanal arts haha, I was interpreting hallucinogenic as actually seeing things when I was refering to the marijuana comparison. But I have had many many mental revelations, spinning, floating and all other happy and sometimes not so happy (paranoia) effects. But I love it and stick to pot, although I was contemplating doing shrooms as well, but what keeps me away is the fear of that bad trip...I don't need that shit lol badtrip phobia

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