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post #61 of 72 (permalink) Old 12-14-2012, 06:33 PM
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I just wanted to share this with you guys take it for what it is but wise words from a friend of mine on this.

This is MY opinion and I am entitled to it. I have to share this in order for me to function today as I am truly disgusted and very heart broken for the families involved. If you do not agree, you to have the right to share but do so on your own page. I will not be arguing this topic.

We as humans must stop this madness. Gun control is NOT the answer. More security at schools is NOT the answer. S
uing movie theaters for lack of security is NOT the answer. We need to reverse this politically correct mentality we have and start punishing the youth for behaving badly.

I see too many parents letting their children run their lives. Not spanking them because it's "abuse", not correcting them because they're children and they need to grow in their own way. BULLSHIT! Spank the shit out of that kid when they are wrong, yell at them in public to correct them. We must take back control of todays youth.

There has always been violence and evil but this is the no punishment generation that is committing these horrendous crimes. Too many early 20's having mental issues and my personal belief is that it's a direct result of lack of punishment and not being held accountable for things they do wrong. They have no idea what life is going to deal them and they snap as soon as the safeties of mommy and daddy are removed. In this case so much he decided to kill them even.

If you are a parent please take control of your children. Love them by correcting them, spanking them and teaching them that this is unacceptable. It starts with us as parents and I am as much a part of this as any parent. If you see an un easy change in your teen or twenty something PLEASE advise someone and or take actions to help them.

This is NOT a religious situation. This is a parenting issue.

Sad day here in the world. Send your thoughts to these families today. Take actions to change it tomorrow.
I agree, i also think this slightly ties in with what i said about revamping the school system. How? I do not know exactly but i know its not working that great right now.
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Everyone needs to be able to tell SOMEONE that they are hurt/lonely/sad/mad/depressed/whatever.

I'll be the first to throw it out there, if anyone on the forum needs someone to vent to, I'm here, totally unbiased. Just shoot me a PM and I'll send you my phone number if something's on your mind that you need to talk about.
Hey alaric, that's REALLY cool of you.

I am so sorry that the children - victims and survivors - had to experience this senseless tragedy. My heart and thoughts go out to the families and all involved (faculty, responders, etc.). Had to choke back tears when reading and hearing the reports from the surviving children...this is horrible. Just horrible.
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I just wanted to share this with you guys take it for what it is but wise words from a friend of mine on this.

This is MY opinion and I am entitled to it. I have to share this in order for me to function today as I am truly disgusted and very heart broken for the families involved. If you do not agree, you to have the right to share but do so on your own page. I will not be arguing this topic.

We as humans must stop this madness. Gun control is NOT the answer. More security at schools is NOT the answer. S
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I see too many parents letting their children run their lives. Not spanking them because it's "abuse", not correcting them because they're children and they need to grow in their own way. BULLSHIT! Spank the shit out of that kid when they are wrong, yell at them in public to correct them. We must take back control of todays youth.

There has always been violence and evil but this is the no punishment generation that is committing these horrendous crimes. Too many early 20's having mental issues and my personal belief is that it's a direct result of lack of punishment and not being held accountable for things they do wrong. They have no idea what life is going to deal them and they snap as soon as the safeties of mommy and daddy are removed. In this case so much he decided to kill them even.

If you are a parent please take control of your children. Love them by correcting them, spanking them and teaching them that this is unacceptable. It starts with us as parents and I am as much a part of this as any parent. If you see an un easy change in your teen or twenty something PLEASE advise someone and or take actions to help them.

This is NOT a religious situation. This is a parenting issue.

Sad day here in the world. Send your thoughts to these families today. Take actions to change it tomorrow.
Unfortunately most parents are too busy to raise their kids correctly...its easier to buy them an i phone or whatever. I spank my kids and was spanked myself...wouldn't change it at all.

Sadly, this whole thing will be forgotten in a short while overshadowed by some other stupid shit like the fiscal cliff...that is until another tragedy happens.
Your buddy's opinion has merit, but would require parents to take far more responsibility than they are willing to do, therefore gun control or improved security becomes the quick "band aid" solution in my opinion and unfortunately is one of the only realistic solutions.

We have a number of "kids" in our neighborhood that could greatly benefit from effective parenting. In fact we have a number of parents that could benefit from some parenting. Not long ago the kid down the street got picked up for dealing out of his house. Nothing like seeing him roll around in a lincoln LS and his buddies Audis and BMWs thumping through the neighborhood.

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I just wanted to share this with you guys take it for what it is but wise words from a friend of mine on this.

This is MY opinion and I am entitled to it. I have to share this in order for me to function today as I am truly disgusted and very heart broken for the families involved. If you do not agree, you to have the right to share but do so on your own page. I will not be arguing this topic.

We as humans must stop this madness. Gun control is NOT the answer. More security at schools is NOT the answer. S
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I see too many parents letting their children run their lives. Not spanking them because it's "abuse", not correcting them because they're children and they need to grow in their own way. BULLSHIT! Spank the shit out of that kid when they are wrong, yell at them in public to correct them. We must take back control of todays youth.

There has always been violence and evil but this is the no punishment generation that is committing these horrendous crimes. Too many early 20's having mental issues and my personal belief is that it's a direct result of lack of punishment and not being held accountable for things they do wrong. They have no idea what life is going to deal them and they snap as soon as the safeties of mommy and daddy are removed. In this case so much he decided to kill them even.

If you are a parent please take control of your children. Love them by correcting them, spanking them and teaching them that this is unacceptable. It starts with us as parents and I am as much a part of this as any parent. If you see an un easy change in your teen or twenty something PLEASE advise someone and or take actions to help them.

This is NOT a religious situation. This is a parenting issue.

Sad day here in the world. Send your thoughts to these families today. Take actions to change it tomorrow.
I definitely agree.
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Notice how most of these people are below the age of 30? With a slim chance at opportunities a lot more people are gonna snap. There is a ton of pressure and little chance of success. Most of these people are people who fail and want a way out. Why Canada doesn't have the problem? A lot less of the bullshit that is going on here. When you live somewhere where failure is unacceptable you'll get people who fail and can't deal with it and do this shit. As for Norway? I can't say, not to up to date on Norway. They do have pretty similar characteristics as the U.S though.

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Gun control debate goes here. I think Streetdoc has the right idea. If we want a full-bore gun-control debate, go there. If you want to talk about stuff relating to this specific tragedy, this is the thread.


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I just wanted to share this with you guys take it for what it is but wise words from a friend of mine on this.

This is MY opinion and I am entitled to it. I have to share this in order for me to function today as I am truly disgusted and very heart broken for the families involved. If you do not agree, you to have the right to share but do so on your own page. I will not be arguing this topic.

We as humans must stop this madness. Gun control is NOT the answer. More security at schools is NOT the answer. S
uing movie theaters for lack of security is NOT the answer. We need to reverse this politically correct mentality we have and start punishing the youth for behaving badly.

I see too many parents letting their children run their lives. Not spanking them because it's "abuse", not correcting them because they're children and they need to grow in their own way. BULLSHIT! Spank the shit out of that kid when they are wrong, yell at them in public to correct them. We must take back control of todays youth.


There has always been violence and evil but this is the no punishment generation that is committing these horrendous crimes. Too many early 20's having mental issues and my personal belief is that it's a direct result of lack of punishment and not being held accountable for things they do wrong. They have no idea what life is going to deal them and they snap as soon as the safeties of mommy and daddy are removed. In this case so much he decided to kill them even.

If you are a parent please take control of your children. Love them by correcting them, spanking them and teaching them that this is unacceptable. It starts with us as parents and I am as much a part of this as any parent. If you see an un easy change in your teen or twenty something PLEASE advise someone and or take actions to help them.

This is NOT a religious situation. This is a parenting issue.

Sad day here in the world. Send your thoughts to these families today. Take actions to change it tomorrow.

Best plan right there. We might be able to influence the adults of this nation, but children are more receptive and are the future of our nation.
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My earnest wish (other than the obvious one that this wouldn't happen again) is that they take down one of these pieces of shit before he can kill himself. It would be useful to study the fucker, and maybe learn something about what sets people off like this. No anesthetic, of course. Vivisection completely ok.


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Best plan right there. We might be able to influence the adults of this nation, but children are more receptive and are the future of our nation.
I completely agree also the problem is that it does nothing for the (how many million?) 18-30 year olds that had a shitty upbringing. It doesn't solve the problem now.
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For starters they could enforce the gun laws that are already in place better. They could make the penalty greater for an illegal possession of a gun.
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