Well I watched your you tube videos and you look like your not even close to park riding... Sorry calling as I see
Without even reading Wolfie's entire reply I'm gonna call you a straight up dick. There's no need for that kind of talk here.
Wolfie is one of the nicest, most respectful people I know. I've never once seen or heard of him being a park expert. In fact it's the exact opposite. He stays away from park because he's past that point in his life, as am I.
I ride with Wolfie almost weekly....... that a side.
His videos are nothing short of spectacular. I pretty much learned how to snowboard based on those videos. My wife got her start watching those videos.
If ya want to say a guy isn't a park master fine, but have some respect about what you say and how you say it.
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Gotta love those Pacific Northwest tree runs, those trees look a lot like one of my favorite runs at Stevens Pass, they call it "Meryc woods" (not sure of the sp?), we call it Lakeside Park (it's a RUSH thing) and also known as "the Bakery"
I actually left Meadows for a couple years to go back to Timberline to avoid the high prices and long lift lines, I came back because I felt I missed the terrain at Meadows and wanted to try the ew lift and RFID gates, Ugh Im not impressed, The lines on a peak day are almost worse now and prices are still high, to top it off the new lift is short and not all that great. Unless you can hit Heather Canyon before the skiers ruin it with moguls.
Which brings back to the point of Meadows being a let down, Its 80% skiers it seems which is fine nothing aginst them but it does ruin the bowls with their tiny s turns.
To sum it up Meadows is not as great as I remember, Timberline has won me over for good. My opinion anyway, Im sure some agree but alot dont.
I got my timberline spring pass 2 days ago. While I do love the timberline vibe it will never compare to meadows. Itr's like kiddy slope vs. real adult slope.
As I said in a previous post............. if I had to ride tline all year I'd jump off the the ski lift chair into the ice. Meadows is where it's at.
The way to go for someone who is not interested in Meadows is the Fusion Pass that gives you unlimited access to both Timberline and Skibowl. You get the great vibe of Timberline, long gentle well groomed cruisers, nice glades and the best parks on the mountain. At Skibowl, you get great free ride terrain that ranges from easy to highly technical. It`s terrain is every bit as gnarly as Meadows, just not as much of it in square acres. Then of course there is the aspect of the largest night skiing area in North America. Skibowl on a deep powder night is epic. The real downside to Skibowl is it`s elevation. It gets less snow that either Timberline or Meadows and often it is pouring down rain while both Meadows and Timberline are getting fresh snow.
While not as expansive as Meadows, the upper bowls at Skibowl are longer than Meadows` Bowls but not quite as steep. What is nice about the upper bowls at Skibowl is they all funnel you right down to the lift and warming hut. Lap the bowls for an hour, ride up to the warming hut and grab a beer by the fire, then go back for more. Skibowl on a powder night is really unbeatable. During the day, the Outback is a free ride utopia if you like a combination of open bowls, chutes, cliffs and trees. Depending on how far north you want to go, you will have to hike a bit to get to the final drop, but the views on a clear day make it more than worth it. You can see Hood, Jefferson, St. Helen's, Adams and Rainier from the top of Tom Dick and Harry mountain. There is a terrific series of chutes out there ranging from easy to highly technical
I wish that the three ski areas could all sit down and agree to offer a true Mt. Hood Fusion Pass that gives full access to all three resorts similar to the Epic Pass in Colorado that gives you access to all Summit County resorts. For years, there has been talk about a tram from government camp to timberline to replace that old Skiway Tram:
This old newsreel video of this thing is awesome:
In addition, there has been talk about a tram linking Timberline lodge to Vista Ridge at Meadows. This would make Mt. Hood a truly epic destination resort area and even though it would attract more visitors overall, I think it would reduce the shit show that Meadows becomes on peak days by giving people the option to spread out without having to buy a lift ticket at one resort when they have a pass at another.
I don`t know where the obstructionism to these concepts is coming from. I have heard rumors that it is the shareholders of Meadows that will not go in on a three way pass and I have heard rumors that it is RLK Corporation that does not want to include Meadows. As for the tram and overall development of Government camp, I have heard there is a lot of resistance from the local people who don`t want it to turn into a major shit show like Whistler and then there is the whole USFS issue since White River Canyon is technically withing the Mt. Hood Wilderness Area and a tram violates the wilderness ethos. Weather would also have to be a huge factor. I can see how maintaining a tram in safe operating order over that canyon and on Vista Ridge would be next to impossible with the fierce PNW storm we get on Hood.
Still, we need to get a three way Fusion Pass approved by all resorts somehow!
That vid is freakin awesome!! So it actually took you from govy to the lodge?
I've never in my short career had a better night than at skibowl when it was dumping like crazy. I miss those dumps. Haven't really had a good one all year. March is here though, and it better be dumping soon.
me bro at MHM said today was pretty epic, 13" of new? that'll do
i was out there a month ago or so, spring conditions, but it seems like the hill and terrain, and parks / lifts, etc are kickass....look forward to hitting some big pow there one day, next season for sure....
Yep! That thing left from what is now the Huckleberry Inn in Government Camp. The Alpine Trail from Timberline goes right down the clearing that thing used. In summer, you can see the old concrete footings used for the towers. Before it gets too late, I need to take you down the Glade and Alpine trails. Leave one of our rigs at Huck`s and then drive up to Tline.
Ya I've wanted to take those trails. Which one is which? I know of the one at the bottom of Jeff flood.
Timberline got 17" I read. Also read meadows lifts were down all day due to wind.
Tuesday Night Snow. Low around 28. Windy, with a south wind 13 to 23 mph increasing to 23 to 33 mph in the evening. Winds could gust as high as 44 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 7 to 11 inches possible.
Wednesday Snow showers. High near 31. Windy, with a west wind 32 to 37 mph, with gusts as high as 55 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 10 to 16 inches possible.
Wednesday Night Snow showers. Low around 15. Windy, with a west wind 31 to 39 mph, with gusts as high as 60 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 7 to 11 inches possible.
Thursday Snow showers likely. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 26. Breezy. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible.
Is that reliable? It's linked from the Meadows site. If it is, I am driving down Wednesday night. That's like 3 ft in 24 hours!
I'm not familiar with the area, never been to Hood. Girlfriend and I were going to go to one of the WA resorts Thursday, but that's enough snow to make me change plans a bit. She is going to get a beginner ski package, I'm gonna go off and do my own thing. I'm only an intermediate, but I like finding powder stashes that don't require adventuring into places that I don't belong (Snowolf gave me a few places to check out in a previous thread, saved those). So between that for me and a good beginner area for her, are we better off at Meadows or Timberline?
Edit: Judging by the trail maps, it seems like Meadows might be better for us. The runs at Timberline are pretty narrow so I'm guessing it will be totally groomed unless you go exploring in the trees. Meadows seems to have some open areas off blue runs on the left side of the map which should allow some off-piste lines. But trail maps can be deceiving, so let me know if I'm out to lunch